Rivers Cuomo

Tonight Was the First Time.

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....I have ever witnessed a professional footballer throw a match.

Vincent should have his contract ripped up and he should be punted. 

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Just now, Rivers Cuomo said:

....I have ever witnessed a professional footballer throw a match.

Vincent should have his contract ripped up and he should be punted. 

Agree completely - showed where his loyalties lie trying to dig his old mates out the sh**e.

Absolute bottle merchant. Disgraceful performance.

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I must admit it made for very worrying viewing. 

Huge questions asked of both Ross and Vincent tonight. 

Very sad to see that. 

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2 minutes ago, blythswood said:

I must admit it made for very worrying viewing. 

Huge questions asked of both Ross and Vincent tonight. 

Very sad to see that. 

I thought Ross played very well, one of few that get pass marks IMO.

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I also thought ross played well tonight. Vincent can gtf though. 

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4 minutes ago, Prince Buster said:

I thought Ross played very well, one of few that get pass marks IMO.

He was diabolical. 

Pulled out every challenge. 

Sticks 4 or 5 irrelevant passes about but he's so weak it's embarrassing. 

He's been a total passenger both times they've taken us apart this season. 

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Ross was one of the very few to get pass marks from me.  As someone said earlier, too many players reverted to type tonight and are plainly just not good enough.  Thought we played some nice football at times but ffs humping high balls into the box after Haber had gone off makes me question the intelligence of some of these players.  Two early brain fart defensive moments cost us.

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There is not a single midfielder in our first team squad that I want us to retain at the club.

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7 minutes ago, blythswood said:

He was diabolical. 

Pulled out every challenge. 

Sticks 4 or 5 irrelevant passes about but he's so weak it's embarrassing. 

He's been a total passenger both times they've taken us apart this season. 

Totally disagree. I thought he was our best player tonight. 

At least he was putting his foot in and finding a Dundee shirt with his passes. Unlike the vast majority of his team mates.

He done unbelievably well to flick the ball on to Haber who missed his obligatory sitter again. 

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1 minute ago, Boba Fett said:

There is not a single midfielder in our first team squad that I want us to retain at the club.

El Bak? I thought tonight that he was about 5 steps ahead of most of our players. I think we will see more of him next year and hopefully surrounded by better footballing brains to get the best out of him.

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4 minutes ago, TheDarkBlues said:

El Bak? I thought tonight that he was about 5 steps ahead of most of our players. I think we will see more of him next year and hopefully surrounded by better footballing brains to get the best out of him.

He's not a midfielder and I don't think he'll cut it.

Were pinning our hopes on him because he lit up league one but he's miles off it John.

Hopefully he takes giant strides forward next season but he's far too lightweight and will be brushed aside all too often in this league.

Dont think his touch is as good as some make it out to be either. 

I'd definitely give him more time but we can't be in a position where we're relying on him to score or create regularly. We need to look elsewhere. 

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Just now, Boba Fett said:

He's not a midfielder and I don't think he'll cut it.

Were pinning our hopes on him because he lit up league one but he's miles off it John.

Hopefully he takes giant strides forward next season but he's far too lightweight and will be brushed aside all too often in this league.

Dont think his touch is as good as some make it out to be either. 

I'd definitely give him more time but we can't be ina position where we're relying on him to score or create regularly. We need to look elsewhere. 

I see him differently, I think he has a great first touch, has an eye for goal and has the ability to rip the opposition apart. I think his problem is that he doesn't have players around him that think on the same level he does and there is no one to give him support. I agree that he is lightweight and needs to bulk up, but he is also pretty nippy and can leave bigger players standing (Celtic game where he scored from midfield). 

I personally think there is a good wee player there, but lets face is, Wayne Rooney could look shite in that team just now. I have a funny feeling we will see a different El Bak next season.

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3 minutes ago, Boba Fett said:

He's not a midfielder and I don't think he'll cut it.

Were pinning our hopes on him because he lit up league one but he's miles off it John.

Hopefully he takes giant strides forward next season but he's far too lightweight and will be brushed aside all too often in this league.

Dont think his touch is as good as some make it out to be either. 

I'd definitely give him more time but we can't be in a position where we're relying on him to score or create regularly. We need to look elsewhere. 

I disagree with you on El Bak - he's not the finished article but he picks up good positions and was responsible for every decent final ball we produced tonight. 

Hes a player but needs to be played with a licence to roam to prevent teams man marking him with their cloggers - he breezed past defenders so many times tonight.

Boos when he was subbed tell me I'm not the only one who rates him. 

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9 minutes ago, Boba Fett said:

There is not a single midfielder in our first team squad that I want us to retain at the club.

Totally agree, our midfield, are the worst, I can remember at Dens and  I've seen some sh**e, over the years, thanks Paul Hartley, for that, as my late father,used to say, you can't polish a t**d, 

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26 minutes ago, blythswood said:

I must admit it made for very worrying viewing. 

Huge questions asked of both Ross and Vincent tonight. 

Very sad to see that. 

Harsh on Ross who was one of the few decent players tonight

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7 minutes ago, Boba Fett said:

He's not a midfielder and I don't think he'll cut it.

Were pinning our hopes on him because he lit up league one but he's miles off it John.

Hopefully he takes giant strides forward next season but he's far too lightweight and will be brushed aside all too often in this league.

Dont think his touch is as good as some make it out to be either. 

I'd definitely give him more time but we can't be in a position where we're relying on him to score or create regularly. We need to look elsewhere. 

See I disagree here. 

He'll be a player. Taking time to adjust but I thought he was by far our best player. 

If we're talking lightweight..... Try the 2 CMs tonight who got demolished!

Opinions and all that :)

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27 minutes ago, dee1893 said:

I also thought ross played well tonight. Vincent can gtf though. 

I agree. I also thought Ross had a good game tonight. He tried to find our players with some decent passes and won a lot of tackles. As for Vincent, he was very poor in my opinion 

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30 minutes ago, Boba Fett said:

There is not a single midfielder in our first team squad that I want us to retain at the club.

Gowser and o'hara surely?

Ross outside bet.

i think Hateley has a place as a squad player too.

 

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How much did James Vincent want to earn his wages from Dundee FC tonight against his former club?

Answer: Not very much.

Is James Vincent going to try a leg against Hamilton at the weekend?

Answer: Hmmm. Time will tell.

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1 minute ago, Cobra said:

How much did James Vincent want to earn his wages from Dundee FC tonight against his former club?

Answer: Not very much.

Is James Vincent going to try a leg against Hamilton at the weekend?

Answer: Hmmm. Time will tell.

He shouldn't play. He wasn't trying tonight. 

It's the worst accusation that can be made at a player, but I don't think the fans will trust him again after that. 

Should he be released?

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5 minutes ago, Bubster said:

Gowser and o'hara surely?

Ross outside bet.

i think Hateley has a place as a squad player too.

 

Can't agree with any of your above post.

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18 minutes ago, Bubster said:

I disagree with you on El Bak - he's not the finished article but he picks up good positions and was responsible for every decent final ball we produced tonight. 

Hes a player but needs to be played with a licence to roam to prevent teams man marking him with their cloggers - he breezed past defenders so many times tonight.

Boos when he was subbed tell me I'm not the only one who rates him. 

Cant see it myself and disagree with you and the substitution boo boys on his final ball tonight. I thought he was totally ineffective and was taking heavy touches all over the place. 

He's definitely got talent and worth giving more time to but I seriously doubt he'll improve to any great degree from where he is just now.

He'll pop up with the odd Worldy but his speed of thought is'nt quick enough to make up for his lightweight stature in my book. My guess is he'll continue to be brushed aside and punted about the park next season by most defences.

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3 minutes ago, Rocky Boy said:

Can't agree with any of your above post.

I'd like to say that's a turn up for the books but....

We'll agree to disagree before you start harking back to "Bombers babes"

TBF we could probably get Davo back - he's hyst been relegated to league 1....

 

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9 minutes ago, Bubster said:

Gowser and o'hara surely?

Ross outside bet.

i think Hateley has a place as a squad player too.

 

Na. We need to see the back of our entire midfield IMO.

Feel sorry for Ross this season. Not done enough to warrant a new contract though. 

Gowser - possibly but he needs to be surrounded by good players. Despite all his bluster, he's not capable of grabbing a game and his team by the scruff of its neck. 

O'Hara - What is he? I don't know..

Hateley - Passenger all season

Vincent - Probably my shout for our best midfielder but still just not good or consistent enough for what I feel we could get.

Williams - Non existent. Extremely poor when played.

Low - Non existent sick note

Have I missed anybody out?

Rip it up and start again...

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Boba Fett said:

Na. We need to see the back of our entire midfield IMO.

Feel sorry for Ross this season. Not done enough to warrant a new contract though. 

Gowser - possibly but he needs to be surrounded by good players. Despite all his bluster, he's not capable of grabbing a game and his team by the scruff of its neck. 

O'Hara - What is he? I don't know..

Hateley - Passenger all season

Vincent - Probably my shout for our best midfielder but still just not good or consistent enough for what I feel we could get.

Williams - Non existent. Extremely poor when played.

Low - Non existent sick note

Have I missed anybody out?

Rip it up and start again...

 

 

O'Hara is young, promising and is our 2nd top scorer and gas a reasonable assist count.

Madness.

Agree to disagree on Gowser - he's played well recently and we've won - it's not a coincidence.

All IMO of course. The rest are open to interpretation no doubt.

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