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We are now three days away from the January Transfer window. JM has basically said 'hold on to your seats' as there will be a lot of activity at Dens Park with players going out and coming in.

So lets have your thoughts, hopes and dreams in what the manager should be doing, and discuss the transfers as they happen.

Hopefully 2019 will be a better year than 2018 and we can survive this drop.

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We genuinely have to replace the entire squad apart from K Miller and maybe Woods/Ralph.

Neil McCann might have been a hero at the club previously but he has really got us in the sh*t now. Arrogant prick who can shove his philosophy up his a**e.

If I’m being realistic though I think we will only see maybe 4-5 new faces come in.

 

 

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5 minutes ago, J_Kitamirike said:

We genuinely have to replace the entire squad apart from K Miller and maybe Woods/Ralph.

Neil McCann might have been a hero at the club previously but he has really got us in the sh*t now. Arrogant prick who can shove his philosophy up his a**e.

If I’m being realistic though I think we will only see maybe 4-5 new faces come in.

 

 

Agreed.

JM will surely have targeted around double that number but I think will only land the number you suggest. A combination of players not wanting to come here and no chunt wanting to take any of NM's duds. 

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Keep K Miller Kerr and Ralph, put Parish in goal. 

If the Americans are going to back the busted flush we need 3CHs 5 midfielders and a forward. 

If McIntyre gets that surely even he can’t make an a**e of not finishing above StMirren and Hamilton.

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4 minutes ago, Dondeh said:

Agreed.

JM will surely have targeted around double that number but I think will only land the number you suggest. A combination of players not wanting to come here and no chunt wanting to take any of NM's duds. 

We need to get McCann back in a job like at Albion Rovers or something so he can take his player with him 😂 What a mess he has left us, I said it at the start, his legacy will hurt us for years. Hope McIntyre can bring in the players required. 

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12 minutes ago, Dondeh said:

Agreed.

JM will surely have targeted around double that number but I think will only land the number you suggest. A combination of players not wanting to come here and no chunt wanting to take any of NM's duds. 

yep thats the biggest problem, how do we find the rquired quality whilst getting rid of the sh**e , jm’s got some job on his hands

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It’s going to be very difficult to get the players we need in and I’m intrigued to see what happens. Not many quality players are going to look at the league table and think playing for Dundee is a good career move. 

We can’t afford to have Hamilton in the goal. Need a keeper that gains us points not loses them. Personally I’d just put Parish in the goal. 

Need a new centre back plus bring back Waddell. Get rid of Boyle and Innes. 

Need a right back. Need a left back.

Need a right winger. Need a left winger. 

Need a defensive midfielder. Need an attacking midfielder.

Need another striker.

Lot of money that is going to cost Keyes but that’s what’s needed to sort Nelms/McCanns f**k ups

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1 hour ago, Mondee93 said:

yep thats the biggest problem, how do we find the rquired quality whilst getting rid of the sh**e , jm’s got some job on his hands

I have a feeling that Keyes will put his hand in his pocket and use his own cash to pay off players.

I think regardless of what league we are in next year, there has to be a major rethink of how this club runs from top to bottom. Some real hard truth's need to come out and maybe heads need to roll.

While as a fan, I loved watching new players come into the club over the last 5 years, but I also believe that this philosophy has been our biggest downfall.  We really could do with stability on the park for a few years and not this revolving doors policy.

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1 hour ago, Cg73 said:

Bring in loads of players. That's it. 

100% agree

Just get them in pdq. 

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2 hours ago, McSkimmeroo said:

10 new players - anyone will do

your right m8 thats what we need a minimum off at least

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Short term we need 4-5 players but longer term (start of next season in Premiership) another 5-6, verging on another clear out.  We have some decent to good players but they are being left hopelessly exposed by the waste of jersey/spectator/cant be arsed performances from some.  We battled Livi and rode our luck in that game but today it was like the wee haters had two extra men on the park.  With regard to new players, add Parish in goal and one of the new signings to be a 25 year old Gary Harkins and I'll be more confident.

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Gardyne, Fraser, Curran, Ralston & Tansey in to kick things off.

Public bids for St Mirren & Hamilton's best players, with bumper wages alluded to.

PCA announced for Adam Hamill.

Every trick in the book. We need to get dirty if we want to get out of this sh*t.

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While I'd love a belated new team from Santa, its not realistic and it would take time to gel, time that we're running out of. I can see JM looking to bring in the 4 or 5 'journeymen' (not sure why it gets bandied about as an abusive term) SPL players that are probably all we need to toughen us up. Guys who know the league and most likely will know what the manager requires of them. They'll probably be on nodding acquaintance with a fair few of our players anyway so easier to hit the ground running. 

Assuming we stay up (which I do) then the summer will be when we'll see what JM is bringing longer term.

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The midfield for me is absolutely sh**e. Kamara looks like his head is elsewhere although no idea why he was taken off today. McGowan's form is awful and Woods has done nothing in the past 4 games. Jesse was rubbish today and Calvin has been poor of late too. We also need a strong striker as kallman doesn't really look ready yet. 

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Well we need Innis, C.Miller, Nabi, Moussa, Mendy, Elton, Kharl, Kamara, McGowan, Kallman, and Curren out of the team and/or out of the club.

Whoever we bring in can’t be worse that’s almost a certain.

In an ideal world we get Hendry, Tansey, Adam and Hardie all in on loan and somehow manage to sign Shalke, Scougall and Erwin on permanent deals. Chances of any of that seven signing is probably nil, so at this stage I’d settle for Draper, Kellior-Dunn, Davis, Gardyne and Curren all signing as let’s be honest, those five are all better than those mentioned in the first sentence 😢

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The only positive today is that it shows The BoD "what good looks like" on a tiny budget in the SPL …. ie St Johnstone.  It equally shows the BoD what pissing away money on a daft project gives you.  Good luck in Jan ………………………………… we wont get a new squad but some additions to midfield please ……..

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15 hours ago, TheDarkBlues said:

I have a feeling that Keyes will put his hand in his pocket and use his own cash to pay off players.

I think regardless of what league we are in next year, there has to be a major rethink of how this club runs from top to bottom. Some real hard truth's need to come out and maybe heads need to roll.

While as a fan, I loved watching new players come into the club over the last 5 years, but I also believe that this philosophy has been our biggest downfall.  We really could do with stability on the park for a few years and not this revolving doors policy.

In fairness to them, I can see why they went the route they did. They've been looking for avenues to make the club profitable and very early on, it looked like it may pay off with the Hendry transfer.

I think, in this league, you are far far safer with going the stability route as it just reduces the amount of risk. It does seem like Nelms recent comments on their criteria for the new manager are indicative that they've seen it not work.

I get the feeling we may have a shock or two in the coming weeks. I now wouldn't be totally surprised if we did see players like Cammy and O'Dea away.

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3 minutes ago, Harry94 said:

I get the feeling we may have a shock or two in the coming weeks. I now wouldn't be totally surprised if we did see players like Cammy and O'Dea away.

Exactly this, a few shocks coming I think. I still feel over 8 players coming in, most if not all we (fans) will have heard of and have experience of Scottish football. Like Ross County/St Johnstone type signings. 

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11 hours ago, Bjs said:

Well we need Innis, C.Miller, Nabi, Moussa, Mendy, Elton, Kharl, Kamara, McGowan, Kallman, and Curren out of the team and/or out of the club.

Whoever we bring in can’t be worse that’s almost a certain.

In an ideal world we get Hendry, Tansey, Adam and Hardie all in on loan and somehow manage to sign Shalke, Scougall and Erwin on permanent deals. Chances of any of that seven signing is probably nil, so at this stage I’d settle for Draper, Kellior-Dunn, Davis, Gardyne and Curren all signing as let’s be honest, those five are all better than those mentioned in the first sentence 😢

I think Tansey would be decent for us. He’s    6ft 1 too so would add height to the midfield. Gardyne has not been playing too much for County recently so might be a possibility we could get him. Not the best player in the world but would still add something.

Scougall is a midget but would hopefully bring creativity. Although I get the impression he’s similar to Nabi. Has a few tricks without doing much else.

We defo need bigger and stronger players who won’t get pushed about. The difference between us and saints yesterday was massive. They looked a very good team.

We can only dream of having an effective player like Kennedy.

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I’ll be honest, I’m at the stage where I feel just about anything will be an improvement.....that squad is shot 

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37 minutes ago, Harry94 said:

In fairness to them, I can see why they went the route they did. They've been looking for avenues to make the club profitable and very early on, it looked like it may pay off with the Hendry transfer.

I think, in this league, you are far far safer with going the stability route as it just reduces the amount of risk. It does seem like Nelms recent comments on their criteria for the new manager are indicative that they've seen it not work.

I get the feeling we may have a shock or two in the coming weeks. I now wouldn't be totally surprised if we did see players like Cammy and O'Dea away.

I've been thinking O'Dea might be away, he'll be on a good wage I suspect and while he's still a useful player, he's not irreplaceable. I'd be sorry to see Cammy go though, still pretty young so can still improve and has a great work ethic. Everyone has their price though and if someone was going to offer a decent whack for him then that's football.

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Out: Innis, Woods, madianga, Spence, Nabi, Elton, Haber, moussa, Mendy, kamara for a decent fee. Probably kallman to go back. 

In: a dominant centre half, a fullback to cover either side, a big sh*t kicking cm, a creative mid, a box to box cm, a winger to cover either side, 2 centre forwards.

 

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