McCann the Pundit

[Napper 156]

on Radio Scotland tonight.. still banging on that his team would have come good.. talks a good game though..

[Scottswiss 80]

I missed that bit, but I suspect he would have been proven wrong. For one reason or another.

[WeighorstsWang 3,077]

21 minutes ago, Napper said:

on Radio Scotland tonight.. still banging on that his team would have come good.. talks a good game though..

Do you really need to start a new topic every time Neil McCann takes a breath? 

[Scottswiss 80]

2 minutes ago, WeighorstsWang said:

Do you really need to start a new topic every time Neil McCann takes a breath? 

Where's the harm?

[Napper 156]

2 minutes ago, WeighorstsWang said:

Do you really need to start a new topic every time Neil McCann takes a breath? 

Do I? feel free not to read them if it offends..

[WeighorstsWang 3,077]

31 minutes ago, Napper said:

Do I? feel free not to read them if it offends..

It doesn't offend me, I just kind of assumed spamming was against the forum rules. 

[Scottswiss 80]

WW.... read another thread.

[ThelegendthatisBeto 564]

He sounds remarkably like spud from trainspotting on sportsound tonight. Just imagine him saying "pleasure in other people's leisure" 

[Billy Campbell's Ghost 1,304]

Unemployed manager gets job on Sportsound, happened to Hartley, lazy Radio signing.

[DBDU 209]

perhaps he would have ..

Jim McLean's Dundee United survived by the skin of their teeth early in his managerial career on last day of the season at our expense and they never looked back . I would guess that when United were down battling relegation that year with a young inexperienced manager in charge there would have been plenty people calling him clueless and wanting him punted .

We will never know if Mcann would have turned it around  but maybe its time we stop knocking the guy  and move on regardless .

NMc was a great player for the club and saved us on more than one occasion as a player and then a manager so don't think constantly slating the guy is warranted ! 

[19seventyone 212]

Of course he will say his team would have come good. He’s hardly likely to say anything different.

The vast majority of Dundee fans would disagree though

[Skullduggery 388]

Does it really matter now, most of his team are now unemployed. He seems to have landed himself a job so fair do's

[WoodStein 2,294]

In the part of pre-match Sportsound I heard, NM was asked what he thought about the big turnover in players, and he said he was absolutely fine with what JM is doing....he had signed a group of players he believed were best-suited to play the way he wanted us to play, and it was totally understandable that JM doesn't want the team to play that way, and he would need to bring in players that he knows are better suited to playing his way.

A perfectly logical  point of view, I thought, and no fuss or negative comments at all.

NM is very passionate about the game & has a strong belief in how he wants 'his teams' to play....he's always going to say - if asked - that he believed in that style & in the players he signed, and their ability to turn things around. PH said much the same after he left, I think. 

I'd hope that, once we secure our place in next season's Premiership, we'll have 'moved on' from feeling the need to keep debating NM's spell as manager, and just look back on the PH/NM phases as stepping stones towards rebuilding a club that becomes a stable part of this league. The other option  ...is unthinkable.

.....but then, some people think I tend to be a wee bit over-optimistic, at times     

[DarkBlueKnight 1,423]

19 hours ago, Billy Campbell's Ghost said:

Unemployed manager gets job on Sportsound, happened to Hartley, lazy Radio signing.

Should sign up guys from the lower echelons of hospital radio and turn them into breakfast slot national djs

[FanDee 119]

This myth about the way he wanted his team to play,when in actual fact we were total gash under him. The first half last night was the best I've seen a Dundee team play in years.

[TheDarkBlues 2,793]

It didn't work out for Neil so we move on. He believed in what he was wanting to do with the club but it wasn't to be for him. I have no animosity and I wish him well in the future as I believe he would regarding the club (As I don't see him wishing anything bad for the club) as I honestly believe he was doing what he thought was best for Dundee FC.

[Eyeothedug 418]

On 06/02/2019 at 19:17, Napper said:

on Radio Scotland tonight.. still banging on that his team would have come good.. talks a good game though..

That's all he does...can't believe a word he says though. Shouldn't be a pundit now.

[TheDarkBlues 2,793]

15 minutes ago, Eyeothedug said:

That's all he does...can't believe a word he says though. Shouldn't be a pundit now.

Oh man you harsh....... maybe you should be a pundit as well

[Eyeothedug 418]

36 minutes ago, Eyeothedug said:

That's all he does...can't believe a word he says though. Shouldn't be a pundit now.

 

20 minutes ago, TheDarkBlues said:

Oh man you harsh....... maybe you should be a pundit as well

I would be a much better pundit than McCann. It's easy...

[Chomp my root 4,000]

10 hours ago, FanDee said:

This myth about the way he wanted his team to play,when in actual fact we were total gash under him. The first half last night was the best I've seen a Dundee team play in years.

Its not a 'myth', he tried to play a style that didn't work. While we'll all have an opinion on whether it could have come good or not, none of us can say for sure because the 'experiment' was cut short. Its fair to say the style he was trying to play CAN work, it works for Man City etc.

Its done, move on, he's not the first and probably not the last manager who it hasn't worked for with us.

[Eyeothedug 418]

1 hour ago, Chomp my root said:

Its not a 'myth', he tried to play a style that didn't work. While we'll all have an opinion on whether it could have come good or not, none of us can say for sure because the 'experiment' was cut short. Its fair to say the style he was trying to play CAN work, it works for Man City etc.

Its done, move on, he's not the first and probably not the last manager who it hasn't worked for with us.

Yeah he had good intentions about our playing style but I don't think they were ever realistic. Yes it works for Man City and Barcelona etc but we would never ever have good enough players to actually play it effectively. We we good early on against Aberdeen at Dens but deteriorated after that. The first half on Wednesday was excellent. We were strong, robust, direct and had the best striker on the park I have seen since Hemmings. We also played some nice stuff too! Wright was a star. Dales looks promising too.

[Reverend Lovejoy 4,529]

1 minute ago, Eyeothedug said:

Yeah he had good intentions about our playing style but I don't think they were ever realistic. Yes it works for Man City and Barcelona etc but we would never ever have good enough players to actually play it effectively. We we good early on against Aberdeen at Dens but deteriorated after that. The first half on Wednesday was excellent. We were strong, robust, direct and had the best striker on the park I have seen since Hemmings. We also played some nice stuff too! Wright was a star. Dales looks promising too.

We've playing in the SPFL in Scotland, we don't need EPL or La Liga standard players to implement a passing playing style. Football is changing and McCann tried hard to get us on the right road. McIntyre has come in and transformed our playing style but the style he coaches, whilst effective in our league, is a step away from the direction that football is heading. McCann wanted better than the agricultural blood and snotters style that flourishes in Scotland. Can't fault him for that.

[Gedee 2,567]

7 minutes ago, Eyeothedug said:

Yeah he had good intentions about our playing style but I don't think they were ever realistic. Yes it works for Man City and Barcelona etc but we would never ever have good enough players to actually play it effectively. We we good early on against Aberdeen at Dens but deteriorated after that. The first half on Wednesday was excellent. We were strong, robust, direct and had the best striker on the park I have seen since Hemmings. We also played some nice stuff too! Wright was a star. Dales looks promising too.

Hello Eye' ... The first half of that game will not have gone by un-noticed by DFC manager, players, fans/supporters.

Or by any other opposition teams as well (if they've any sense) Think JM will have his players watch this, again & again.

I'm no want to talk aboot Neil McCann's attributes or otherwise as a potential manager or pundit...(I've spoken already)

We must by now be near the point when it's time to let go. I'm still wallowing on DFC players attitude/total commitment.

I know the topic's about McCann. But I would rather read topics now about our present manager...Jim Lad yir doing OK

[CW 90+3 02/05/16 2,695]

McCann tried to run before he could walk.

He'd never been a manager before.

He came in to a struggling team/club who's number one aim was to stay up.

He signed a team of obscure unknowns from quite a low level last summer who'd never played in this league before then implemented a slow laborious pass it around the back style which was not effective in picking up points.

The season before was OK as he had Scott Allan, Jack Hendry (for a bit) and a few better signings like A-Jay.

Summer 2018 was just negligence. 

A top flight Dundee FC should never have been the work experience for an untried manager to try an experiment.

Hopefully, now we have an experienced top flight manager who knows what he's doing, we haven't left it too late to clear up the mess.

 

 

[Gedee 2,567]

19 minutes ago, Reverend Lovejoy said:

We've playing in the SPFL in Scotland, we don't need EPL or La Liga standard players to implement a passing playing style. Football is changing and McCann tried hard to get us on the right road. McIntyre has come in and transformed our playing style but the style he coaches, whilst effective in our league, is a step away from the direction that football is heading. McCann wanted better than the agricultural blood and snotters style that flourishes in Scotland. Can't fault him for that.

Rev (the highlighted bit) ...

Whit a Braw Name that wid be for a New Fitba Manual (It deserves mair than a passing comment in a Forum Post)

ALL THE POTENTIAL NEW FOOTBALL MANAGERS, WILL BE INTO GOOGLE/AMAZON LOOKING FOR A COPY

Sorry for going political...I think I'll check again meh SNP Membership I'm in a "Scottish Blood & Snotters Mode"