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  1. 12 points
    It has come to my attention that members of this forum have been discussing the Dundee FC backroom staff and their especially their jobs on this forum. I want to make this VERY clear, discussion regarding the backroom at Dens Park is out of bounds as per our Community Guidelines and our moderators will remove such posts which break our Forum Rules. This includes discussing people losing their jobs. I want to make a few things quite clear, the Staff on this forum will NEVER endorse any member of the Dundee FC backroom staff losing their jobs. They work tirelessly behind the scenes at our club and everyone of them...
  2. 7 points
    Pick the right manager and everything else falls into place. Pick someone who'll not sign old, injury prone players or loads of foreign project players. Pick someone with experience of managing. Pick someone with realistic incentive based targets and with a release clause if not hit. Don't pick wee angry antagonists with few man management skills. Pick someone who can adapt to different situations. If there is any doubt about a player's long-term fitness or character, avoid signing him. Analyse prospective signings strengths and weaknesses. For example if a 26 year old winger (Williams) only has 14 career assists and even fewer goals or a striker only has 19 career...
  3. 6 points
    But not beyond the Nelms of possibity.
  4. 6 points
    A club that would struggle to get 1500 fans through the gate... Even a successful merged club would struggle to break into top 5, so if the merged club became a ”diddy yo yo club”, would you stop going? Would Montrose fans want to merge with Brechin? Course they wouldn’t...What success have they had? Rather my club died fighting than merge with that mob across the road.
  5. 4 points
    Hiya Everyone, I have been doing this now for 5 years and I actually started this forum after the death of my father as a way to honour his memory... as he was the one one who turned me into a Dark Blues fan for life. However, I have recently been diagnosed with Carpal tunnel syndrome and this is making it harder and harder to keep up with the day to day upkeep of the forum. I have decided that at the end of the season, I will stand down as the admin of this forum and hopefully bring in a successor to run the forum as it should be....
  6. 4 points
    Loosely related to this point, there's an excellent interview with the Hibs CEO Leeann Dempster in Nutmeg magazine's podcast series. There is quite a lot of discussion about her role and also the rebuild of the club following their relegation as well as their processes when it comes to identifying head coaches. https://www.nutmegmagazine.co.uk/podcast/episode-22-interview-leeann-dempster/ The position doesn't need someone who has been "in the game" or had a playing career. It needs someone who has a willingness to engage with how Scottish football actually works it's not enough to just throw cash at a manager to fix their mistakes. I suppose you could look at Motherwell's Alan Burrows in the same...
  7. 3 points
    I’ve run many a website with both my wrists out of action Mr Clive R Dick best wishes John DBK
  8. 3 points
    If I was leasing a Jaguar and the car lease company said next year you will get a Ford Fiesta, but continue to pay the same monthly payment, how many would do it? FPS/Nelms are treating the fans as charitable donators and not customers. Some will be happy to pay more for less but I suspect many will not.
  9. 3 points
    He hates us, and the feeling's mutual.
  10. 2 points
    I went to my first game watching the Dees in early 1970’s to watch them play East Fife in a Scottish cup tie in Methil. We won 1-0 with a first minute goal which we did not see because of the crowd getting in. Over these years I have seen them win the league cup, been promoted and relegated more times that I would care to recall. I have seen two admins and the club still goes on and is in my blood. Tonight like all my fellow Dees I am as sick as a dog. I started the season with lots of hope and it’s gone down and down...
  11. 2 points
    f**k sake, Woods is sh**e anaw....
  12. 2 points
    The football team/stadium plan is just their way in. The Camperdown development, if it ever goes ahead, will be massive, with the stadium being a very small part of it. There'll be houses, flats, hotel, pubs, crematorium, ice rink extension and all weather pitches with community use amongst other things (can't remember them all off the top of my head). The owners stand to make a pretty penny at Campy, they'll lose money redeveloping Dens without a shadow of a doubt.
  13. 2 points
    Maybe the board will consider the action County took last season and appoint Jimmy Boyle and McPake as co-managers. Imagine this board if we had two managers to seethe at!
  14. 2 points
    A better experience for me Is winning football matches
  15. 2 points
  16. 2 points
    I was thinking about this recently when I saw the stat showing that if Dundee get relegated this season, we'll become the most relegated club in the last thirty years. I remember reading the 'Up Wi' The Bonnet's' history book a few years ago and what I found quite striking was that although I knew we've had periods of being a bit of a calamity at boardroom level, it's been a consistent thing since World War Two. All clubs have had their bad periods for money etc but it's hard to ever identify a period in the clubs history where we are stable off the park for more than a...
  17. 2 points
    I obviously don't pay enough attention to other clubs managers personalities to notice that he hates Dundee (which I doubt he does). Possibly we are unmanageable if we rule out decent managers at our level because we think they are a prick. If I remember correctly we didn't do very well against his Ross County team. Anyway, continue draw up the huge list of nice guys with a great managerial record willing to come to Dundee. We could do a lot worse that Derek Adams.
  18. 2 points
    All fair points, I didn't word it very well. What I was trying to say is that a lot of us haven't bought ST's to save money it's more about putting money into the club. Of course we'll all have a limit where we say enough is enough. I'm with CBH on feeling they're ripped the a**e out of it this year with the short window to buy ST's at the 'bargain price' of 340 quid, it just struck me as a very cynical ploy to push us into buying early. I would have grudgingly paid £340 for the Championship (even if it is too much), I was willing to...
  19. 2 points
    On your points: No merger - a lot of older fans would lose more heart than have this season. My feelings for the club will never die. Obviously it's been the season from hell but then you find your own level, regroup and go again. with another new squad, who knows how good or bad they'll be? As for diddy clubs, look at the rest of the top flight apart from OF. Wow... get into Europe then bounced out by the end of July. Admittedly better than we've been used to but depressing overall. Goodwin...maybe.
  20. 2 points
    Worst post i've ever seen on any forum in my life
  21. 2 points
    Seem to remember he always had a grudge with dundee for some reason when we played county. never had a good word to say. the guys a wee rat no thank you.
  22. 2 points
    Snappy debating style - love it
  23. 2 points
    Simple economics, if you're going to charge the exact same price for a lesser product then demand will fall. I quite simply won't pay Premiership prices for Championship football. If they adjust the prices accordingly, demand will increase. Price doesn't come in to it for you. It does for me. I found the post early bird prices expensive for Premiership football. I find them taking the complete and utter p1ss for Championship football. Hopefully the club realise you can't charge the same for the league below than you do for this league when the prices were seen by many as expensive anyway. I wouldn't bet on it though. Said at...
  24. 2 points
    I was wavering about renewal. But if I can be guaranteed a seat in D brigade , main stand division close enough to observe the unlikely love match that is @islaydarkblueand @Reverend Lovejoy Sitting together with one rug over their knees sharing a packet of chocolate caramels then I’m in. Voyeur.dsc
  25. 2 points
    Absolutely bonkers to ask the Americans to withdraw their support because of relegation. Mistakes have been made, lessons need learnt, changes are needed but it would be a disaster for Tim Keyes to walk away now.
  26. 2 points
    what a fantastic job you have done on here, hard work and commitment for the 5 yrs. a very sad time IMO. dee for life!!!
  27. 1 point
    Was with a few friends yesterday evening and the topic of Dundee FC came up and where did it all go wrong not just this season but for decades now. I’m currently watching the Netflix programme about Sunderland AFC and they are a few similarities, toxic atmosphere and losing mentality. I asked my friends this question just to open up debate, not that I agree with some of the points below; Is Dundee FC unmanageable? The toxic cycle of defeat and despair has meant Dundee has become a managerial graveyard For decades now we as a club never pick the ‘right’ manager yet other clubs can (St Johnstone, Motherwell and...
  28. 1 point
    We are relegated. End of!! So lets move on. I agree very much with EuanG's post "To Be A Dee". I amongst many will stick by the team but what is the way forward? My own personal view is as follows:- The past season has been one of the worst I have experienced in nearly 60 years as a Dee right up there with some of the worst when languishing in the middle of the second tier of Scottish football over the past 40 odd years. How quickly can we get back up and can we do it right this time and bring some stability to the club? Firstly imo...
  29. 1 point
    Sounds about right to me. Don't compare with the ridiculous prices paid for footballers these days; what someone would pay for a player like him these days doesn't equate to what someone would pay back then - real worth doesn't come into it.
  30. 1 point
  31. 1 point
    Whoever the new manager is, not everyone will be happy. We need a manager that knows the club and imo has a track record of the league that we will be in. I've been thinking of a manager I thought did a decent job overall. Hartley's final season wasn't great, yet wasn't as near bad as this season. His signings were in general, decent. Some managers just work well at a club, he suited Dundee. He is very friendly with Strachan (maybe a potential DOF job for him). Tim Keyes and John Nelms seemed to get on very well with him, he brought in new ideas to the club. He...
  32. 1 point
    It gives me the fear of Miller being appointed and not what we need. The cheapest of options and yet again we aren't letting people apply for the job. Will this club ever learn?! With Miller selling his house in the West coast and 'moving closer to Tayside' you just have to wonder though.
  33. 1 point
    I have a feeling Kenny Miller will be announced as manager once we are officially relegated.
  34. 1 point
    We need 9 points out of 9 and St Mirren to pick up 0 or 1 point out of 9 at the same time. We've won 4 games in our last 38. St Mirren can survive 12th without picking up a single point. The only thing left to decide is whether we get relegated at Dens or Livi. We're down and have been for a month. Time to move on.
  35. 1 point
    I would agree with your comment if I had been thinking about formal board meetings. They are not what I envisaged at all. It's the general discussion and talk about football matters with someone who actually knows all about the Scottish football scene that is needed. The day to day running of the club, IMO, needs someone who can bring some practical experience to help the board.
  36. 1 point
    While he doesn't seem the kind of boy I'd go for a pint with, he's been fairly successful as a manager. He did well with County (unfortunately) and got Plymouth promoted, had a poor season this time round but can see him getting another gig fairly easily. We could do worse but if one of the rumours circulating comes to pass it will be Kenny Miller that will be the manager next season.
  37. 1 point
    We now have a distinct possibility that Tim Keyes may say enough is enough and want to cut his losses and run. I for one believe that this would be a huge dent in any prospects we have of Dundee coming back up in the foreseeable future let alone coming back up straight away. Tim keyes cannot be criticised for not putting his money where his mouth is he has backed every manager with transfer money and his visions of where he wanted our club to end up were admirable, however this has not been the case and i cant see any prospective investors queuing up to put their money...
  38. 1 point
    Owners need to manage expectations. Stating an ambition is just setting yourself up for trouble IMO. Having targets and setting goals IMO are the cause of all our troubles. We should completely re-calibrate our club and set out to make it profitable, take a real interest in our youth set up, and just live within our means. If we sell a player we can invest the money in soemthing that will bring us benefits for years into the future rather than putting the money into the playing budget. We may well have the 7th biggest support but if it's made up of pensioners who buy the lowest priced ST it...
  39. 1 point
    Devlin would be a decent shout if available.
  40. 1 point
    They might of bury their heads in the sand and hope that the loyal season ticket holders will eventually decide to renew their season ticket. There has to also be a rethink with the proposed PATG prices for next season. This furore over season ticket and PATG prices for next season could easily have been avoided if the club had waited until they knew which league we would be playing in next season with a short Super Early Bird offer period for the 2019-20 season tickets.
  41. 1 point
    James McPake‏Verified account @JamesMcPake5 1h1 hour ago Good night at Hampden last night. Delighted to have received my UEFA Pro Licence. A tough but enjoyable two years spent with a great group of people. I took the above comment off a link, after seeing the news on another post on here (Apologies to the original poster ... I can't remember poster or what thread it was in) However, although I remember James saying, he was not interested in a managers position, should he not now reconsider putting his name in the hat ... For Managers, caretaker or permanent post, now that he has ... UEFA Pro Licence? ... Surely with...
  42. 1 point
    Am I right in assuming, ye dinnae agree jack? Tak it easy freend, we're awe Dees together
  43. 1 point
    “Hard to please” No major honour in 46 years... Yo yo club for years 2 admins Crooked owners. False promises. Fans deserve a knighthood for sticking it out for so long. Then you hear the mob across the road who have had it so bad these past few years, poor lambs....give them some of what we have had past 30/40 years and see where there club would be... The problem isn’t the fans.
  44. 1 point
    while it has indeed been a lot of sh*t me and the young lad were sitting yapping about whats went wrong and aff the top o our heads we came up with a few examples of how this season could and should have been a lot better. Moussa and Hamilton v st mirren..missed pen and keeper thinking he was De Gea lose 2-1 Aberdeen...soft as sh*t penalty....lose 0-1 Hamilton....Mackinnons last minute worldy...draw 1-1 Kilmarnock...boy dives wins penalty...lose 2-1(McCann sacked) Kilmarnock...miller misses last minute penalty....draw 2-2 Celtic....best defensive performance of the season...ref plays next goal the winner...lose 0-1 I know its all if buts and maybes just a few examples on...
  45. 1 point
    It has never been about value for money, for me, but it is about getting the p1ss taken out of you once too often and a feeling of "enough is enough".
  46. 1 point
    In the exact same boat. Won't be renewing until the prices are adjusted to Championship prices, not high Premiership ones. If the prices remain the same, I won't renew. Most people I've spoke to in person are saying the same.
  47. 1 point
    Hamilton are a much smaller club than Dundee but they did their research and used their contacts to appoint Brian Rice, a guy who has never managed before. They didn't sign a dozen players in the January window but they brought in one guy George Oakley who could make a real difference. We must have spent 10 times as much money to get a fraction of the result. That has to come down to Nelms.
  48. 1 point
    Well everyone is entitled to their own opinion and debate is healthy.
  49. 1 point
    Exactly he seems to be think that everything was rosy in the garden during fan ownership when the reality is the complete opposite. I don’t like to criticise but this is the guy who claimed on here numerous times that football management isn’t that difficult. His opinions seem to be a bit out there so to speak and not particularly representative of the most Dundee fans.
  50. 1 point
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