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  1. 17 points
    WTF, some utter nonesense being posted here about John Nelms and the blame he should carry for the mess we are in. Had he kept the No vote, and given what we know now, does anyone believe that reconstruction would have been more likely, or the relegations avoided by some other jiggerypokery? We all watched the cracks in the dam grow over many years. When the first holes appeared and the authorities suggested sandbagging up the doors of the clubs in the low lands downstream, Nelms thought he could get them to deal with the holes in the dam as a condition of acceptance. That those discussions broke down is...
  2. 14 points
    Its your right bud. Totally up to you. But Peter Marr Callum Melville Ron Dixon And yet John Nelms is the one who broke you. But like i said, its your choice. Just don't be surprised if folk dont take you all that seriously.
  3. 13 points
    It was a disaster in hindsight, yes. But it was great fun and we got to see some unbelievably talented players wear the strip. It hasn't led to 20 years of dross on the park after it. Unless you can explain why there was 30 years of dross on it beforehand?
  4. 11 points
    I like a lot of what he says. Basically too many wee clubs playing at being professional. I personally would like two leagues of sixteen. No splits and bu**er the 4 x OF games a season. Proper futba. 30 games.
  5. 11 points
    Wouldnt it be magic if all the other teams told the old firm that they were going to start up an association and leagues without them being invited to join. Maybe then a lot of people could get back into attending matches and supporting Scottish football.
  6. 9 points
    Was going to get Dundee Football Club tattooed along my todger but unfortunately, there wasn't even enough room for DFC so gave it a miss, 'D' would have just been too vague..... 😒
  7. 9 points
    Can I ask any Dees who shop on Amazon to click on the smile Amazon option on your account so that the Dfc community trust receives 0.5% of the value of your purchase. Amazon pay the community trust so it's not costing you anything. It might not seem a huge amount but if we all do it, it adds up. It's also compatible with Amazon prime. The community trust have lots of great projects including Alzheimer's, mental health, kids football, keeper school etc. Ddyb 💙
  8. 9 points
    If I could give this post 20 stars I would! Us voting yes never changed Uniteds situation.. They were always going up no matter what.. Null and void was never on the table.. I believe Nelms voted yes to try and get talks of reconstruction (not for a second did I ever think we would get it) but if we did the league would have been much easier next season without hearts and Inverness if they went with a 14 team top flight. If we just voted no I believe Arabs would have still went up and Hearts would have came down anyway. Last thing I'll say is see to...
  9. 9 points
    No one enjoys the misfortune of Dundee United more than me. But any chairman/ceo who would vote in a situation like this to unfairly harm their rivals isn't fit to be a chairman/ceo. This is the type of the chat of a punter of messageboard or a kid in a school playground but a chairman/ceo cannot and should not think that way. Say what you like about the way Nelms voted but suggesting he should've had keeping United down in mind is frankly quite embarrassing. Thankfully, the thought never entered his head. Nor should it have. It is still concerning that there are fans out there who say believe that...
  10. 9 points
    My wife would stick me in a cupboard then renew the policy 😫
  11. 9 points
    Schalke have asked season ticket holders to waive their right to a rebate and help the cash-strapped club through the lockdown. The club will give away specially made team shirts to each season ticket holder who does not ask for their money back. I'd be quite happy if DFC did that.
  12. 8 points
    I look at a club like East Fife and have spoken to a couple of their directors. They are a community based club, prefer grass but artificial pitch gets used 7 days a week by the community, friendly environment 500-600 fans, supporters lounge used thoughout the week, youth teams, oldies walking football, enough income to pay players 80 - 100 quid a week and Strachan thinks they are arseholes. WTH does he expect them to do and what business model does he want them to adopt? I know those running East Fife would tell GS where he can stick his opinion on how to run a div1/2 club.
  13. 8 points
    As they say, there is no smoke without fire..... and the SPFL is burning like someone poured petrol through their letterbox. IMHO the SPFL is probably the most crooked organisation next to the Mafia and the Colombian Cartels, but the only difference is that they don't get to shoot and send flowers to the wife of people they dislike or put them in barrels. People like Doncaster don't care about Scottish Football, they only care to cater for a couple of clubs in the Premiership and nothing more. They just wanted clubs to take the money as a partial bribe into getting what they wanted and not what wouldn't benefit...
  14. 8 points
    Starts at 11 so get the results about 1030
  15. 8 points
    Dundee United a horrible, hellish, despicable, nauseating, grubby, shabby, disgusting, ghastly, hideous, terrible, gruesome, grotesque, appalling, horrendous, revolting, repellent, repulsive, sickening, stomach churning, unsavoury, distasteful, foul, nasty, obnoxious, odious, disagreeable, unpleasant, dreadful, foul, objectionable, offensive, insufferable, vile, loathsome, abhorrent, goddam fukkin' awful excuse for a football club. What's more manky, mingin', boggin' ; ach ye get what I mean!! Feel free to add any more descriptions!
  16. 8 points
    Until 2012, Rangers were the establishment. David Murray (and his minions) worked with Lawell productively for a decade, they had regular meetings and worked on a lot of deals together (i.e. carling shirt sponsors). Those two clubs have had shared business interests and managed to establish and evolve the rules of the SPL to fit their interests. 8 years later and they are a shell of a club, decades behind their rivals on a financial level. They have arrived back at the top with a tweaked organisational structure that now encompasses the SFL (more closely) and given their absolute breakdown in their rise back up the division and some embarrassing...
  17. 8 points
    Rangers are playing a very tricky game here, I think. I get the feeling that their dossier amounts to little more than second hand accounts of a few phone calls between SPFL and some clubs. One reason they seem reluctant to release it is that they will have to get formal approval from the clubs involved to release the big news. I imagine those clubs are extracting a price and Rangers with their usual hubris and concern for 'face' will be negitiating loan deals and friendlies as we speak. Of course, if they do cause a breakdown in the established order of things, they would stand to lose more than...
  18. 8 points
    I must admit that I'm strongly against this. I'm a football supporter and I would be devastated if my team was punted out of the leagues, or amalgamated or simply folded so that a few big clubs could grab more sponsorship money. Football should be for everyone who wants it and not just for the supporters of certain teams of certain sizes. I genuinely don't understand why it's more important that, for example, Hibs should get a few more thousand pounds a year, while Brechin, for example, could just be cut loose. We should value the supporters of all clubs.
  19. 8 points
    Excellent reporting. Neil Robertson in the Scottish Daily Mail has the same wording from John Nelms as appears in the Courier. Gives a good explanation of what he did, that's what we were needing to hear, IMO. Also nice to see he didn't mince his words about Scot Gardiner's behaviour. For me this clears the air. It does not come across as self serving and it is clear that he was persuaded, by those he talked to, that there was an appetite for improvement to the Scottish game, he even makes the point that Sky should be part of that process.
  20. 7 points
    blah, blah, old firm, blah, blah, old firm is all I hear when Scottish Football authorities talk. Honestly, look after the whole thing properly or f**k off.
  21. 7 points
    See the EFL are to call the season but still hope to save their play offs. In Scotland assuming they call the season in the Premier only automatic promotion and relegation is to go ahead throughout the leagues despite play offs being every bit as much part of the rewards and downside of a full season. ICT, Ayr and us and the various teams in Lge 1 & Lge 2 should be getting together to raise merry hell in this regard as it would only be looking after their own interests as per the teams kicking out re-organisation of the leagues. If nothing else it might trigger some mini parachute...
  22. 7 points
    The fuckers are rotten to the core..despicable set of b*****ds
  23. 7 points
    Utter joke. Opportunity to overhaul our game for the better thrown away last week. This week we throw away the opportunity to expose the imbeciles running our game for the frauds they are. The game up here is heading nowhere and the clubs will reap what they've sown, another however many years of total mismanagement and corruption at the hands of a bunch of crooks who couldn't give a toss about our game. Astonished if we've voted No given we changed our vote on ending the season based on certain assurances that there would be serious discussions about reconstruction which were never taken seriously.
  24. 7 points
    I maybe misread your intentions when you mentioned Nelms sending United up. But to be honest, I'm finding it hard to care about it all just now. Because I don't think our vote really would've made a blind bit of difference either way to the outcome. Whats happening now is what would have happened had we stuck with our no vote. The only difference is that the payments to the clubs would have happened later and clubs would have been harmed by it. I genuinely believe Nelms intentions were honourable throughout this process if perhaps naive which I respect him for. And for that reason I could not give a...
  25. 7 points
    It is really sad to see so many posters having a go at John Nelms for how things have turned out. He tried, perhaps more than anyone to push through changes in Scottish Football for the benefit, not of his own club, but of all of them. Had we stuck with the no vote we would have been precisely where we are now, only a couple of weeks sooner. At least he had a go and tried to do something. He is in no way to blame for the failure of the discussions. How any of you can think that is beyond me. A side thought did occur to me...
  26. 7 points
    SPOT ON. At the risk of being inflammatory, it would appear that we certainly have a few The Rangers sympathises among the Dee support (and on this board). Or at least sympathising their cause over Celtic's anyway... Get them baith tae f**k.
  27. 7 points
    Nice piece put together on the 57 year anniversary of the Milan game. Well worth a read. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52439318
  28. 7 points
    .....until Happy Dooniversary 😎
  29. 7 points
    Confession time. Kid has it on her calendar every year. Brought her up well. 😁
  30. 6 points
    Surely people don't think that Nelms and Keyes are just sitting on their hands?
  31. 6 points
    Let me get this straight, you don’t want us to consider a 20 cap Full international goalkeeper who was on Liverpool’s books for 4 years, Bolton’s for 8, and had multiple player of the year awards because he had some dodgy moments? I know the lockdown has been on for a while now but surely you’ve no forgotten who is our only senior ‘keeper on the book? 🤷‍♂️
  32. 6 points
    Only team to relegate the “world famous” at Dens
  33. 6 points
    I admit that I am an insufferable optimist when it comes to Dundee. It could easily be that there was in fact no difference at all between what we had on offer in the vote and what Mr. Nelms held out for. I still don't buy that many or any clubs in Scotland see Dundee more negatively after recent events. Maybe a bit of a curiosity, but hopefully not much more than that. It is also possible that there was a world of difference between what was proposed in the vote and what Dundee held out for. Just because neither has so far been successful does not mean they were...
  34. 6 points
    I have another idea, purely tongue-in-cheek. A play-off to settle promotion/relegation. Hearts v United, winner takes all. Just inhale the fear.😃
  35. 6 points
    The fact is this, United won the league fair and square. The league position doesn't lie, they were so far in front of us and they would have won the league regardless of how many points we won from now and until the end of the season. I don't begrudge them winning the league, but I hate the way that the SPFL dealt with this whole affair afterwards. The SPFL in my opinion is corrupt to the core and needs to be investigated. My opinion of course!
  36. 6 points
    Any reconstruction to save Hearts from the drop must also save PT & Stranraer from the same fate if it is about being fair and just.
  37. 6 points
    Definitely a no from me,apart from that save, I never rated him.
  38. 6 points
    Gems been up the poley a long, long time. This just goes to show that the vast majority of club chairman, owners and boards are spineless shitebags.
  39. 6 points
    The issue for me is I can afford it at the moment, but with uncertainty about when I can return to work and the future of the furlough scheme my savings might be required for keeping me afloat in the months ahead. Simply can't risk a £340 outlay just now. I imagine there will be many in that same situation.
  40. 6 points
    She'd certainly give us mammaries we'd never forget.
  41. 6 points
    I think I’m very much in the minority here, but I see the vote change U-Turn as putting Nelms in a good light. The ‘position of power’ that he found himself in following the missing vote put him between a rock and a hard place. No vote meant saving Partick, Hearts etc from appallingly unfair relegations - albeit possibly only temporarily. The Yes vote meant an immediate release of much needed cash for a number of clubs. Nelms went public with his reasons that Yes meant clubs got the income they needed to survive and emphasised his point that the U Turn was about the reconstruction which he vociferously supported....
  42. 6 points
    I'm probably equally as miserable, certainly a lot older, and similarly 'git-ish' as Chomp. While I fully appreciate why those who lived through WW2 needed to celebrate its end (or part of its end), it's always puzzled me that we deal with WW1's end with humility, respect, and quiet reflection.....but not WW2. Doesn't sit right with me (& I guess I also share Chomp's "bunch of wallies" view of 'street parties'), not a day for that, to me. On this day 75 years ago, my Dad was sitting in a sweltering, stinking, rat/insect infested jungle somewhere in Burma, thinking "wtf....does no-one know we're not 'free' over here?". He, like his...
  43. 6 points
    Latest statement from Falkirk below. What I find baffling is that so many people believed that Rangers, Celtic and their poodle Aberdeen might take this seriously. ------------------- “Today’s announcement will not come as a huge surprise to Falkirk supporters who have, along with the rest of Scottish football, witnessed firsthand the utter shambles engulfing our game these last few weeks. “As a club we embarked upon this process with eyes wide open and tempered optimism, hoping that the SPFL and other clubs might see the bigger picture and act in the best interests of Scottish football. “In fairness, some did see that bigger picture and approached talks in a constructive...
  44. 6 points
    When Rangers were winning everything in the 90s, it was Celtic who were complaining about nefarious goings on with the powers that be. Now Celtic are winning everything, Rangers are doing the same thing. In both cases it is to distract their fans from the reality, that the fault lies with the clubs not being good enough. A bit like Trump's fake news mantra.
  45. 6 points
    Since Jim Traynor went to Ibrox the HUNS PR has been appalling and excruciatingly embarrassing. He is the common factor in all this nonsense over the years.
  46. 6 points
    Hi barkblue, Seats will be reserved indefinitely as well 👍
  47. 6 points
    Slowly and steadily been getting less and less active and the bad food intake has increased sharply. Really struggling for motivation to do anything and I'm starting to feel agitated most of the time. I'm off tomorrow so I'm clearing the cobwebs, big time. Keep the heid up, everyone. If you ever need to let off some steam, PM'ing me is always an option.
  48. 6 points
    The club have now extended sales and current pricing indefinitely. I'm not furloughed so happy to help anyone having any issues where I can. The Ticket site is run by a 3rd party so may not be able to answer things right away but if anyone has any issues they can email me at [email protected] and I'll be happy to help or pass it on when needed. I had a look at site after seeing post above and if you click on 'Section' it lets you chose what stand you want to buy in, how many and what type of tickets you want. Hopefully that helps. EDIT to say -...
  49. 6 points
    JN comes across really well there I think, I know some will be happy to blame him and the club for all that's wrong in the world but there's nothing you can do about people who are that blinkered. He's 'shown his workings' in why he played it the way he did, fair play to him for holding firm and pushing for the reconstruction. We'll just need to see what Rangers and Celtic the SPFL are willing to go with.
  50. 5 points
    I lived close to Croydon at the time and it was brilliant to bring my kids (20 and 18 at the time) to see Dundee and especially the fans on that amazing night. For once they were proud to let their South London friends know that they had Dundee connections. The Palace fans they know thought we were awesome that night. Special night, amazing memories.
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