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  1. 15 points
    Hopefully this news will help to lift the dark clouds a little bit.. The Dee Academy 11 year olds (2007 age group) that we all chipped in to sponsor on this forum claimed the runner-up spot in the Katoni Cup competition up in Aberdeen yesterday. Results were as follows: Dundee 3- 1 Ross County Dundee 4 - 2 Hibs Dundee 5 - 1 Aberdeen Group winners! Semi - Dundee 4 - 0 Hearts Final - Dundee 3 - 6 Celtic Young Owen Middler & Aaron Clark collected the player and goalkeeper of the tournament awards. Fantastic stuff from the boys and their coach, John Coleman! Well done all
  2. 10 points
    Islay, We don't need no education. We don't need no thought control. No dark sarcasm on the message board, Islay leave them posters alone
  3. 9 points
    What struck me today was just how poor the 'more established' members of our squad were. Cammy was exposed time and again, ball chasing, poor decision making, shocking distribution. Kusunga was OK, but still looks poor in the tackle and on the verge of disaster every time he goes near the ball. Inniss was, well, hmmm. At moments he looks strong, assured and confident, then he takes a touch that sends the ball 30 feet in the air! The lad's distribution is awful unless it's a 5 yard pass and when he's forced to go long it's just shut your eyes and put your foot through the ball stuff. Oh and he never once worked out where Dobbie was all game. Ralph, as he has been since he came back form injury, was one of our better performers. Jessie Curran - well taken goal - and apart from that he's just terrible. No idea positionally going forward or defending and his decision making is woeful - that break away when he tried to feed C Curran instead of Kenny Miller... really?? Gifting the ball away with every second touch and just not understanding the flow of the game at all. There was a time in the first half when he had the ball, and played it inside to Kenny Miller, who'd dropped deep. Miller passed it back to Cammy and couldn't believe it he realised Jessie was still standing exactly where he had been when he first passed it to Miller - and he told him as much. No attempt to stretch the game pull a player put of position or take a gamble that he could get in behind and be sent through with the ball. Useless. Deacon - why? Honestly, just what? Utterly useless on the left, then McIntyre asked him and Curran to swap and they were both even less effective. Had he been fit enough to play prior to the shutdown I've no doubt he'd have been on the discard pile by now as well. The guy's a fraud. Kenny Miller never got a chance to get in the game. Had one half chance all game that was quickly snuffed out and was forced to drop deeper and deeper to get the ball in the first half because our midfield maestros were invisible. Which leads us to McGowan and Woods. How many times could Woods receive the ball today from a defender or deeper midfielder and simply give it straight back to them, whether they were open or not? No attempt to spread the play, no thought of getting turned and looking up field, just back to the defenders and let them worry about it (and with Inniss and Kusunga, worry we did). Looked decent when he came in but there was a feel of going through the motions again today. I was also desperate for him to be taken off the set plays until Jessie decided to show us all that he is even worse at them. How can pro footballers be so bad at delivering a dead ball? Genuinely, when I was their age I was better at it than those two were today. Frightening. And Gowser, well... What the hell has happened to him? It's amazing to think he and someone like Nick Ross bossed our midfield for the final third of a season a few years back. Just unbelievably ineffectual. So even the players McIntyre has deemed good enough (and he signed one of them) were nearly all atrocious today. New lads - Dales, a bit of promise but didn't really make anything of note happen. He was much more comfortable when he got moved to the right. Could go either way with him but he was better than Deacon. To be fair, everyone was better than Deacon. C Curran. Exactly as billed. Chased everything. Won a lot of knock ons. Poor touch, bad distribution and struggled to really know where Miller was. Early days and I can see why he was brought in, but we can only hope he's still settling in. Leaving the two biggest plus points. Dieng. Big and strong. Comes for crosses and made a couple of good saves. On one showing he looks better than Parish and Hamilton. And Nelson was a live wire when he came on. On his toes and direct. Harrying defenders and the keeper and making things happen out of nothing. With a bit of luck might have created a goal when he had no right to when he closed down their keeper. Really like the look of him. Not frightened to put himself about either. All in all a poor day at the office and play like that down there and we'll be well beaten I'd say. In an ideal world, we still need 2 CBs ,a RB, 2 CMs and a RM. I think that 1CB, a RB and 1CM is the bare minimum we can get away with if we've to have any hope of surviving. And frightening to see that the only other player of note on the bench was Källman. Dieng - 8 Ralph - 7 Kerr - 2 Inniss - 4 Kusunga - 5 Deacon - 1 Woods - 3 McGowan - 4 Curran - 4 Miller - 5 Curran - 5 Dales - 5 Nelson - 6
  4. 9 points
    I think a big part of the equation is just squad management From memory, they've not actually recorded a dramatic profit in the last few years - they've had to invest money back into the facilities. Their ground is brilliant for them as it is self sustaining and it does give them that bit more power than if they were servicing something like Dens but when you look at playing budgets etc, you see that the true ability of the football club comes from the playing side. The funeral teas etc might be a good thing for us in a new ground and it's certainly something we want to fix but I think people are really missing the big picture about how important squad management is - each year when we see our headline losses, it's been pretty easy to point to players who we've got on our books who have contributed zero or are being compensated playing elsewhere and see that removing them would bring us into the black. Considering players that have departed under contract at Dundee and the period of their contracts that they had left, it makes pretty stark reading. I know we're not liable for every contract and there will be very different circumstances behind them all but it's scary when you consider the amount of money that's been chucked down the drain. Even just 25% (which I think would be a low estimate - a lot of these guys have went part-time and I suspect would have needed a good bit more to get rid of them), it's a pretty considerable sum. Probably too high but the 60% mark would have us into 7 figures! Player Departures of Under Contract Players - Dundee since 2014/15 Ryan Conroy - 1 year Steven Doris - 1 year Kyle Benedictus - 1 year Nicky Riley - 1 year Peter MacDonald - 6 months Phil Roberts - 18 months (although, he did return briefly to appear on the bench between that) Luka Tankulic - 1year Simon Ferry - 1 year Daryll Meggatt - 1year Gary Harkins - 1 year Yordi Teijsee - 18 months Nicky Low - 18 months Rory Loy - 18 months Tom Hateley - 1 year Danny Williams - 2 years James Vincent - 18 months Faissal El Bakhtaoui - 1 year Marcus Haber - 1 year Lewis Spence - 18 months Elton N'Gwatala - 18 months Kharl Madianga - 6 months Sofien Moussa - 6 months Jean Alassane Mendy - 18 months The last four have not departed the club so I'm maybe being premature but all together, that's a whopping 26 and a half seasons of contracts which Dundee have been liable for and had to come to agreements to terminate early. If we're taking that average listed above as gospel, that rounds up to £1.67 million in wages. Player Departures of Under Contract Players - St Johnstone since 2014/15 Gary McDonald - 6 months Liam Caddis - 6 months John Sutton - 1 year Brad McKay - 1 year Michael Coulson - 1 year Paul Paton - 6 months That's 4 and a half season of contracts that St Johnstone have had to terminate early and would correlate to just over £200k of liabilities.
  5. 8 points
    Craig Curran did well, loves a challenge and he puts defenders under pressure with his work rate Dieng was excellent, quicker with the ball too with decent enough kicks Nelson was strong and right up for it, think he will please the crowd for years to come and will learn a lot from Kenny Miller. Dales looked good, tricky winger ------ Inniss - bomb scare J. Curran - constantly puts pressure on Cammy Kerr as he doesn't track back nor puts a challenge in, he would be a good sub to put on for the last 10mins against tiring full backs. Woods/McGowan; far to alike and can't control a midfield or break down play. When they are in possession of the ball they slow it down. They don't protect the defence one little bit. Deacon; Maybe not match fit, but he was anonymous today. Overall; New signings are improvements on what we have, but we are still way short of what is needed. Go into the league games with Woods/McGowan as our midfield and we will go down.
  6. 7 points
    Instinct is that this is a good addition and this boy will work out well for us. I think a permanent deal here makes a lot of sense in this instance given his age and he arrives knowing his future is sorted. Maybe not the most ideal order of things with the game on Saturday but I think that's the attack sorted now, four options that are all a bit different in their own way. I still think we'll get another four or five in and it's a good effort so far when I think you consider the slow pace of January and realise we're ahead of any in the league (and I think St Mirren have had a horrific loss with Adam Hammil going tbh - he's contributed in a huge proportion of their goals!).
  7. 6 points
    Say we play a team of kids and get a 8-0 9-0...what does that say about our club? Then we lose to Hamilton anyway with a "rested squad" Play the strongest available team in both matches... The day we want to lose in cup games is the day to put the ball away.
  8. 6 points
    Season starts now for us,17 games to save ourselves, won't be easy,personally don't think we've strenghened enough,still weak in defence and midfielder but still time this month.Lets get a win today to boost the confidence before Wednesday,Mon the dee.
  9. 6 points
    He’ll score loads like Hemmings and we’ll be dreaming of millions until we learn that Sunderland have a buy back option for a set of trackies and mitre size 5
  10. 5 points
    This is how Hearts can expect Dundee to line up in midweek.... Hamilton Meekings---Davies---McPake Madianga---Vincent---McIntyre---Elton El Bak---Mendy---Moussa
  11. 5 points
    Who's deluding themselves about our situation? We were absolute garbage this season under McCann and his squad got us into a perilous situation. McIntyre came in, realised McCann's signings were dross and immediately told half of them to get tae. He managed to bring in one player in Woods that wasn't a massive improvement on what we had and has struggled on, keeping us in touch, with McCann's dross. McIntyre has now brought in some players that on first showing yesterday look like improvements. Only one of McIntyre's signings played the full ninety minutes yesterday but somehow you've seen enough to conclude that the squad is now worse than McCann's and no improvements have been made? Seriously mate you need to get a good nostril full of the coffee tomorrow morning. McCann has shafted us, McIntyre's doing what he can to salvage it but the task is nigh on impossible with the sh**e left by McCann. If he pulls it off he deserves a medal. If he doesn't it's probably only 20% his fault with the remainder of the blame being split evenly between McCann and the deluded, clueless mug that believed his guff and appointed him.
  12. 5 points
    He’s been sh**e for us all season and the fact he’s now committed his future elsewhere suggests to me he’s highly unlikely to get any better.
  13. 5 points
    He is a good lad...,,..., the BBC match report - Falkirk 6 Dabs 1. “Nelson fed Longridge who went on to smash the ball past Lewis from 18 yards, before nice work from Nelson again as he set up his ex-teammate from Sunderland, Robson, who finished emphatically with an arrowed shot into the top corner.”
  14. 4 points
    Showed their limitations today. Nicky Low bossed them
  15. 4 points
    You do if it's a cart horse race.
  16. 4 points
    We need to try and get someone like mulumbu in from Celtic, available for loan and Celtic aren't going to let him go to killie or Aberdeen so we should at lea ask the question
  17. 4 points
    How long do you think it takes to identify, talk to, agree with and then sign a player? Do you think that the day after Davies gets injured McIntyre can just go to a footballer supermarket and take a centre half from the equivalent of a deli counter? The players signed since the injury will have been in the pipeline for weeks or possibly months. These things take time, show some patience.
  18. 4 points
    Very harsh. Beyond redemption in his first game? As for being relegated by the end of Feb, not sure if that's possible. If it happens then we can relax and prepare for next season then. We all react differently to poor games. No way I'd put the boot into the team like that. Delirious talk. And I'll remind you of that come the end of Feb.
  19. 4 points
    I phoned and asked, "What time is kick-off?". They replied, "What time can you make it?".
  20. 4 points
    If we go down it'll be because we didn't have any fight in the first half of the season.
  21. 4 points
  22. 4 points
    I can’t wait to see Jermaine Defoe retrieving the ball from the middle of a tractor tyre
  23. 4 points
    Dishing out 2.5 year contracts FFS!!!!!!!
  24. 4 points
    should they have also made it clear that they hadn't discussed moving the club to the moon or our ambitions to join the korean national league Its no right that you need to list all the things that weren't discussed - at no time did the society raise the idea of a merger - they also couldn't rule one out as FPS hadn't make their plans clear. Saying it was never discussed would still leave the rumours
  25. 4 points
    That bit of the statement [apparently] relates to US Taxation law, where you can offset any losses from one company against profits from another company, within the same Group. The benefit would be to the DBPH 'parent company' in the USA, whose 'Corporation Tax' liability would be reduced. Where I think this might be of direct benefit to DFC is that the owners would perhaps be more inclined to fund an operating loss (eg, if they had to fund additional spending on players, as just now), if they knew that loss was softened by a tax saving elsewhere within their Group. I can't see DFC producing an operating profit for the foreseeable future. In this respect, I certainly think 'we' (collectively) should be supportive of what needs to be done to let this happen, as there seems to be no risk to DFC if the owners acquire the 75% or more of the Ordinary Shares which would let this happen.
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