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  1. Billy Campbell's Ghost

    1951-52 Dundee Aim for Cup Double

    DUNDEE v MOTHERWELL, SCOTTISH CUP FINAL 1952 I must add that this has nothing whatsoever to do with the fact that they beat United to prevent them completing their full complement of domestic honours! (honest!) What is important about their victory, and that of Hibs in last season's Skol Cup is that it proves that Scottish football is not a two horse race, or three or four for that matter for the domestic honours in the game. Even recent beaten finalists such as Airdrie and Dunfermline show that honours are within the reach of perhaps around twelve teams realistically, although this probably excludes the league as resources and quality should shine through over a long 44-game programme. It is with this in mind that fans and more importantly players of so-called provincial clubs, and I include Dundee and Motherwell in this, should bear in mind at the start of each season. With a mix of endeavour, skill, luck and of course a decent cup draw, anything is possible as Airdrie will testify when they trot out in Prague for their first and never to be forgotten taste of European Football. I'm sure Motherwell fans would agree and I know that my Dens mates who are old enough to remember the Dee's glory days will testify these nights are extra-special! Todays’ opponents have one over us in that they have won the Scottish Cup twice by virtue of beating both city teams at Hampden in what is fair to say was the role of the underdog both times. The victory over United is recent enough for us all to remember but the one over the Dee way back in 1952 was a stunning result for its day due to both the manner of victory and the quality of Dundee' s team at that time. This was a Dundee team that contained a number of greats, household names such as the peerless Billy Steel, Tommy Gallacher, Doug Cowie and George ‘Pud’ Hill who my old man once said knocked big George Young of Rangers over - and Geordie was twice the size of our Pud ! I spoke to Pud whose nickname incidentally was changed from ‘Pod’ in his schooldays to ‘Pud’ by Tommy Gallacher, and he recalled the match with incredible clarity. He remembers George Young with great affection as someone who was a gentleman on the park and one of the fairest players in the game with no desire to be dirty or hurt a fellow professional. 'Dundee had already won the League Cup earlier in season 1951/52 defeating Rangers 3-2 in an incredible finish and were the hot favourites to lift the second domestic cup to round off the best season in their history.' 'I had missed our League Cup Final win earlier that season through injury and also the semi where we had thumped, by coincidence, Motherwell 5-1 at Ibrox! Not many people will know that no medals were awarded by the Scottish League for winning, and Dundee gave the players medals struck by themselves! 'I was determined to make up for that but as the history books show it was not to be although I have no regrets as after the war I didn't think I would even be playing football let alone be in a cup final. I had suffered a couple of bad injuries, a cartilage op and tendon trouble and had not been too optimistic about my career in football.' Post -war crowds were still phenomenal and around 136,000 were squashed into Hampden to see an intriguing match in April 1952 where the teams lined up as follows: Dundee: Henderson, Follon, Cowan, Gallacher, Cowie, Boyd, Hill, Pattillo, Flavell, Steel and Christie. Motherwell: Johnstone, Kilmarnock, Shaw, Cox, Paton, Redpath, Sloan, Humphries, Kelly, Watson and Aitkenhead. Motherwell had already been in four finals only to lose them all with the last defeat only the prior season, while Dundee had enjoyed two appearances with a 50% success rate as a result of victory over Clyde in 1910 where a winning goal from John ‘Sailor’ Hunter brought the trophy to Dens. By coincidence John Hunter had gone on to manage both Dundee and Motherwell and eventually by the time of the 1952 final had experienced four defeats in Scottish Cup Finals. George Stevenson was now in charge at Motherwell and ‘Sailor’ had opted to stay at home and listen to the match on the radio. In the first half it was all square although 'Well full back Willie Kilmarnock kicked the ball off the line twice with some people still to this day claiming one was over the line, although I'm not a great fan of hard luck stories as football will never be a game of 'if only ... '. Pud remembers that 'Billy Steel was in good form in the first half but perhaps played too many balls down the left and didn't vary it often enough'. 'The second half was a different story though and twice in two minute spells Motherwell stuck two past us to give an unbelievable scoreline of 0 - 4 with the goals being scored by Watson and Redpath in the 56th and 57th minutes and again near the end by Humphries and Kelly in the 84th and 85th minutes to really rub it in' 'My main outstanding memory is a feeling of emptiness and realising we had lost and I only had a runners up medal, although I knew later and still do that that was also an achievement. Dundee at that time had the best half-back line in Scotland with Gallacher, Cowie and Boyd the outstanding trio.' 'It would have been fantastic to have brought two trophies to Dens in one season but it was not to be. We had a great manager in George Anderson who liked players with character as his purchase of Billy Steel showed'. 'George was a gent and in fact I remember him only swearing once and even then he apologised before he said it!' 'He was fond of saying, “we’re not running a Sunday school here!” as he knew some players would step out of line now and again! He actually tried to get a Super League started in the early fifties so none of the current thinking is particularly new – in fact George Anderson was obviously way ahead of his time. He also knew how to use the press to his and the club's advantage and nowadays would probably be regarded as a great marketing guy! Pud still follows the fortunes of Dundee (and United!) and his son, George junior actually had a spell with Dundee in the early seventies but didn't quite make it. Pud still keeps in touch with his old mates and on the day I spoke to him was off to meet Tommy Gallacher in the Boar's Rock for a 'wee drink' where they meet regularly, no doubt to reminisce on great days. If anyone sees these fine gentlemen in there one night buy them a drink from a new generation of Dundee fans brought up on stories of glory days.
  2. Billy Campbell's Ghost

    1951-52 Dundee Aim for Cup Double

    DUNDEE v MOTHERWELL, SCOTTISH CUP FINAL 1952 I must add that this has nothing whatsoever to do with the fact that they beat United to prevent them completing their full complement of domestic honours! (honest!) What is important about their victory, and that of Hibs in last season's Skol Cup is that it proves that Scottish football is not a two horse race, or three or four for that matter for the domestic honours in the game. Even recent beaten finalists such as Airdrie and Dunfermline show that honours are within the reach of perhaps around twelve teams realistically, although this probably excludes the league as resources and quality should shine through over a long 44-game programme. It is with this in mind that fans and more importantly players of so-called provincial clubs, and I include Dundee and Motherwell in this, should bear in mind at the start of each season. With a mix of endeavour, skill, luck and of course a decent cup draw, anything is possible as Airdrie will testify when they trot out in Prague for their first and never to be forgotten taste of European Football. I'm sure Motherwell fans would agree and I know that my Dens mates who are old enough to remember the Dee's glory days will testify these nights are extra-special! Todays’ opponents have one over us in that they have won the Scottish Cup twice by virtue of beating both city teams at Hampden in what is fair to say was the role of the underdog both times. The victory over United is recent enough for us all to remember but the one over the Dee way back in 1952 was a stunning result for its day due to both the manner of victory and the quality of Dundee' s team at that time. This was a Dundee team that contained a number of greats, household names such as the peerless Billy Steel, Tommy Gallacher, Doug Cowie and George ‘Pud’ Hill who my old man once said knocked big George Young of Rangers over - and Geordie was twice the size of our Pud ! I spoke to Pud whose nickname incidentally was changed from ‘Pod’ in his schooldays to ‘Pud’ by Tommy Gallacher, and he recalled the match with incredible clarity. He remembers George Young with great affection as someone who was a gentleman on the park and one of the fairest players in the game with no desire to be dirty or hurt a fellow professional. 'Dundee had already won the League Cup earlier in season 1951/52 defeating Rangers 3-2 in an incredible finish and were the hot favourites to lift the second domestic cup to round off the best season in their history.' 'I had missed our League Cup Final win earlier that season through injury and also the semi where we had thumped, by coincidence, Motherwell 5-1 at Ibrox! Not many people will know that no medals were awarded by the Scottish League for winning, and Dundee gave the players medals struck by themselves! 'I was determined to make up for that but as the history books show it was not to be although I have no regrets as after the war I didn't think I would even be playing football let alone be in a cup final. I had suffered a couple of bad injuries, a cartilage op and tendon trouble and had not been too optimistic about my career in football.' Post -war crowds were still phenomenal and around 136,000 were squashed into Hampden to see an intriguing match in April 1952 where the teams lined up as follows: Dundee: Henderson, Follon, Cowan, Gallacher, Cowie, Boyd, Hill, Pattillo, Flavell, Steel and Christie. Motherwell: Johnstone, Kilmarnock, Shaw, Cox, Paton, Redpath, Sloan, Humphries, Kelly, Watson and Aitkenhead. Motherwell had already been in four finals only to lose them all with the last defeat only the prior season, while Dundee had enjoyed two appearances with a 50% success rate as a result of victory over Clyde in 1910 where a winning goal from John ‘Sailor’ Hunter brought the trophy to Dens. By coincidence John Hunter had gone on to manage both Dundee and Motherwell and eventually by the time of the 1952 final had experienced four defeats in Scottish Cup Finals. George Stevenson was now in charge at Motherwell and ‘Sailor’ had opted to stay at home and listen to the match on the radio. In the first half it was all square although 'Well full back Willie Kilmarnock kicked the ball off the line twice with some people still to this day claiming one was over the line, although I'm not a great fan of hard luck stories as football will never be a game of 'if only ... '. Pud remembers that 'Billy Steel was in good form in the first half but perhaps played too many balls down the left and didn't vary it often enough'. 'The second half was a different story though and twice in two minute spells Motherwell stuck two past us to give an unbelievable scoreline of 0 - 4 with the goals being scored by Watson and Redpath in the 56th and 57th minutes and again near the end by Humphries and Kelly in the 84th and 85th minutes to really rub it in' 'My main outstanding memory is a feeling of emptiness and realising we had lost and I only had a runners up medal, although I knew later and still do that that was also an achievement. Dundee at that time had the best half-back line in Scotland with Gallacher, Cowie and Boyd the outstanding trio.' 'It would have been fantastic to have brought two trophies to Dens in one season but it was not to be. We had a great manager in George Anderson who liked players with character as his purchase of Billy Steel showed'. 'George was a gent and in fact I remember him only swearing once and even then he apologised before he said it!' 'He was fond of saying, “we’re not running a Sunday school here!” as he knew some players would step out of line now and again! He actually tried to get a Super League started in the early fifties so none of the current thinking is particularly new – in fact George Anderson was obviously way ahead of his time. He also knew how to use the press to his and the club's advantage and nowadays would probably be regarded as a great marketing guy! Pud still follows the fortunes of Dundee (and United!) and his son, George junior actually had a spell with Dundee in the early seventies but didn't quite make it. Pud still keeps in touch with his old mates and on the day I spoke to him was off to meet Tommy Gallacher in the Boar's Rock for a 'wee drink' where they meet regularly, no doubt to reminisce on great days. If anyone sees these fine gentlemen in there one night buy them a drink from a new generation of Dundee fans brought up on stories of glory days. View full blog
  3. Dundee lose all three points today thanks to a Turnbull 60th minute penalty. Dundee 0 - 1 Motherwell
  4. Your three word match report for the game against Motherwell.
  5. Who was your man of the match against Motherwell today?
  6. How did you rate Jim McIntyre's team selection, substitutions and performance today?
  7. David Turnbull’s wonder goal was all that separated both sides as Motherwell collected all three points to leave Dundee and also St Mirren firmly in the bottom two. Darren O’Dea’s header in the early part of the match came off the bar and despite numerous penalty claims, the Dee were unable to find their first goal in four matches and their fifth straight defeat. In spite of this, McIntyre was encouraged by what he had seen. “The way we lost the ball before the goal was really disappointing but it was a lot more positive and a lot like I expect us to play in terms of doing our jobs and doing the ugly side of the game,” he said. “We switched the play very well and that got us into wider areas, but it was just the final bit. “It’s going to take them a wee while to get used to what I expect, the demands that are going to be placed on them every day, not just at the games. Slowly but surely, they are starting to get to grips with that. “But, having said that, we need to pick up results as well because we don’t want to get detached. It’s important we get a result next week.”
  8. TheDarkBlues

    Motherwell 1 - 5 Dundee

    Dundee continued their winning ways at Fir Park with a 5 - 1 win against a shell shocked Motherwell side. Dundee took the lead from a Zak Jules' own-goal, a Marcus Haber double and one each from Mark O'Hara and Craig Wighton. Louis Moult's goal for Well had briefly levelled the score at 1-1.
  9. TheDarkBlues

    Motherwell 0 - 0 Dundee

    Stalemate at Fir Park as Motherwell and Dundee share points Motherwell and Dundee lacked attacking inspiration in a goalless Ladbrokes Premiership contest at Fir Park. The hosts dominated the first half without getting a shot on target and neither side carved out a real clear-cut chance during a more even second period. Both sides have failed to win since the opening day of the season and neither did enough in the opposition box to justify victory.
  10. Neil McCann started his reign as manager of Dundee with a huge 3-2 win over relegation rivals Dundee at Fir Park in the SPFL Ladbrokes Premiership. Mark O'Hara gave the visitors the lead while Marcus Haber grabbed a second-half double. Motherwell hit back through Louis Moult and Chris Cadden, but it wasn't enough.
  11. Steelmen hit back to beat Dee at Fir Park Cedric Kipre and Ryan Bowman scored either side of half time as Motherwell came from behind to beat Dundee 2 - 1 at Fir Park in the SPFL Ladbrokes Premiership. Genseric Kusunga had given Dundee the lead but the Steelmen hit back to cement 6th place in the table.
  12. Motherwell continued their fine run of form as Craig Tanner's early goal gave them a 1-0 win over Dundee at Dens Park in the SPFL Ladbrokes Premiership, and moved them up to third place in the table.
  13. Dundee crashed out of the Scottish Cup at the expense of Motherwell.
  14. TheDarkBlues

    Dundee 1-3 Motherwell

    Motherwell beat Dundee 3-1 at Dens Park.
  15. TheDarkBlues

    Dundee 0 - 1 Motherwell

  16. The dark blues are unchanged from the game against St Johnstone. Team Lines: Motherwell: Carson Kipre Aldred Dunne Cadden Grimshaw McHugh Campbell Tait Main Bowman Subs: Bigirimana Frear Griffiths Ciftci MacLean Maguire Scott Dundee: Parish Kerr Kusunga Caulker Holt O'Hara Kamara McGowan Wighton Murray Moussa Subs: O'Dea Leitch-Smith Aurtenetxe Wolters Spence Scott Ferie Referee: Nick Walsh
  17. UWTB1893

    Motherwell: The View From The Opposition

    It seems I speak to the guys at MFC Podcast more than I do my own wife nowadays so it would be rude to find someone new to speak to about Motherwell. Motherwell will have to do with finishing in the bottom six this season and will no doubt battle it out with St Johnstone for 7th place. The club will better last years finish of 9th and also have already accumulated more points than last season. A welcome end to the season with no play-off worries? Absolutely, I think the main goal at the start of the season was to avoid any drama at the wrong end of the table and I think we’ve been fairly comfortable in doing so. We can forget the fact that you have reached not only one national cup final but your now way to feature in two in one season. That’s a massive achievement for the club and it hasn’t been done since 1951. How surreal has this been and what’s the atmosphere like around the fans because of this? It’s been incredible and the buzz around the place is great. Strangely it comes on the back of years of terrible form in the cups too, we’ve had two amazing semi-finals at Hampden and one final where we gave a very good account of ourselves. I reckon it’s important to stress too that there’s been a lot of work behind the scenes and by the players and staff to bring everyone together, the football club as a whole is in a very positive place. I know us Dundee fans will like to think this but do you think there is a chance the players will have one eye on the final and start to play it safe so to say as in not wanting to get injured? Absolutely not, this team don’t seem to have an off switch, they play and train with a real intensity. I think everyone in our team is now using the remaining games as a chance to prove they are worthy of a place in the starting-eleven on May 19. Speaking but injuries, I read somewhere the Steelmen could have potentially up to eight people out. Who are they and who are likely to make it against Dundee? We have long term injuries to Peter Hartley, Ellis Plummer and Craig Tanner (which I’m sure is welcome news). Andy Rose and George Newell are both out tomorrow too. I think that’s the guys who will certainly miss out, Curtis Main had a suspected fractured wrist but it thankfully wasn’t as bad as feared. Finally there’s Carl McHugh and Nadir Ciftci, the former who should be fine for tomorrow and Nadir is back in training. Looking ahead to your final. You have won this competition twice, with both triumphs coming against ourselves and Dundee United. Celtic aren’t the invincible force they were last season. Does this give you the belief that you can your name for the third time to this prestige cup? I hope so! It would be crazy to reach a final beating nothing but top flight teams along the way and not thinking you have a chance. Celtic are a fantastic side and there’s no getting away from that, but we’ve given them some real challenges this season, we need to have a great day and hope they are off it a bit, if that happens then who knows? I’m getting excited just talking about it - 22 days to go! You’ve yet to lose against us this season and have only conceded on goal along the way. How would you rate the games against us this year? The last one was especially frustrating for Dundee fans to watch. The last game was horrendous! I didn’t think despite being on the back foot though that Dundee really offered much of a threat, I felt you were far better in the game at Fir Park before Christmas. We’ve shown we are good when it comes to grinding out a win and we’ve had to do that in the league wins at Dens, I hope with a little less pressure tomorrow we’ll play with some freedom and the game will be a bit easier on the eye. Our record at Fir Park is surprisingly good though with only two defeats in the last ten. Dundee desperately need the points if they want to cement their place in next seasons Premiership ahead of Hamilton, Thistle and County. Motherwell players will also be playing for starting places for the Scottish up Final. What type of match will we see and what’s your prediction? Hopefully a decent one! I’m going to go for a 2-2 draw.
  18. TheDarkBlues

    Dundee V Motherwell

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  19. The Dee went down one-nil after Motherwell had opened the scoring in the first half, their only shot on target for the whole 90 minutes. Dundee would push for the equaliser but despite having plenty of chances, ultimately failed to convert any of them. “It feels like someone’s come into my house and taken everything,” said Deacon. “I can’t believe we got nothing from the game. That wasn’t what we deserved for the way we played. “Everyone dug in and played well. We knew this was a really big game for us. “The gaffer came in after the game and didn’t know what to say because to a man we gave everything. It’s devastating.” He added: “I got a lot of the ball. The gaffer could see that I was beating my man quite often so he told the boys to keep getting the ball to me. I got a lot of supply and it let me do what I like to – get at defenders one v one. “It’s just unfortunate that we couldn’t get the ball in the back of the net. “We’ve played Motherwell four times. They haven’t really given us any trouble and we’ve only got a point. We battered them every game. They just sit in and defend for their lives. That’s what they’ve done again. “Even in the first half they didn’t create anything apart from their goal. “I’ve been told we had 10 shots to their one. It was basically total domination. As I said, it’s devastating that we didn’t take anything from the game. “I don’t know how they’ve picked up the three points.”
  20. The dark blues lost in what was a scrappy game were neither side looked like scoring. However a lapse in concentration at the back cost The Dark Blues three points after Motherwell was gifted a goal in the first half. Dundee huffed and puffed but got no where near sneezing, never mind blowing the house down. Dundee 0 - 1 Motherwell
  21. Who was your man of the match against Motherwell in today's game?
  22. Your three word match report for the Dundee v Motherwell game today? limp up top!
  23. The Dark Blues are at home for our next Ladbrokes Premiership game against 7th place Motherwell. The Dee came back from 1 - 0 down to Partick Thistle in our last match to earn a valuable 3 points which pushed us up the table to 8th place and put us 5 points in front of that 11th place play off spot. Our last game again Motherwell was in the Scottish cup earlier this month, in which we lost 2 - 0 at home in a very poor game. This was a game that we had edged in possession and shots on goal, but as the say, it's the goals which count. Motherwell's tanner opened the score when his shot squirmed past Parish in the 30th minute. The second half saw the Dee go further behind and the chance of Scottish Cup glory fade once again after Holt was credited with giving away an own goal, Holt nodded the ball past Parish who was well off his line. A win against Motherwell this week would go a long way to keeping us away from the bottom two spots. We have four tough games before the split, three of which are against Celtic, Rangers and Aberdeen and If I am being honest I fail to see where we will pick up points against them.
  24. UWTB1893

    Motherwell: The View From The Opposition

    They must be 'seek' of speaking to me by now but the lads at MFC Podcast (also on Twitter: @MFCPodcast86) were happy enough to have a wee chat before Saturdays tie. We only spoke a few weeks back before our Scottish Cup fifth round tie at Dens and it ended in tears for the Dee as Motherwell made their way into the next round with a 2-0 victory. What was your views n that match and win for the Well? I think most teams consider Dens Park as an extremely difficult venue to visit, so to go there and progress in the Cup fairly comfortably was extremely pleasing. I think Nadir Ciftci enjoyed that victory much to the displeasure of the Dundee fans! He’s settled brilliantly at Fir Park, I really believe that when he reaches full fitness he’ll be a massive asset to Motherwell - his attitude seems spot on too, which goes against everything we were told to expect. Following your win in the cup, Killmarnock visited Fir Park and went home with the three points after a 1-0 win. I’ve seen Motherwell fans comment that your performance that day didn’t merit the defeat. Were Killie lucky? They certainly had the rub of the green after they beat us a few days before your tie! We played pretty well last week but Killie were well organised and we weren’t able to break them down, it was a big disappointment in terms of the search for a top-six place, it’s so important we bounce back quickly. Dundee lacked an attacking force in the cup tie but on Saturday, Simon Murray gave us Dundee fans hope that he can be the man to start knocking in the chances that we have been otherwise been failing to convert on a regular basis, much to the annoyance of us fans. Will he be the first name on the team sheet that you will look at and see as an instant threat? I’ve not seen much of Murray in all honesty but his goal scoring record is fairly impressive - it came as a surprise when Hibs let him go out on loan. Steven Caulker is another name that has received plaudits since his arrival in our defence with Killie and Thistle fans commenting on the presence he gives off at the back and even up from set-pieces. Who do you see tangling with him in the hope of getting the upper hand? Well that was going to be the name I was going to answer the previous question with. I follow Spurs as my English team and I was stunned he’d joined Dundee. A player of that quality will be a huge asset to any team in this league and it’ll be very interesting to see how Nadir Ciftci and Curtis Main do up against him. I’m sure Dundee will line up a bit more differently than you seen in the cup tie. Can you see Motherwell changing it or can we expect the same outlook from them? I would expect some changes to our eleven from last week, but I doubt there will be any drastic changes to our ‘up and at em’ style of play. We go into this match with a confidence boosting victory over Partick Thistle but our home form has seen us with no wins in five that includes four defeats. How do you see this one playing out? Hopefully along the same lines as the previous two fixtures at Dens. I have no doubt it’ll be difficult but I think we’ll edge it 2-1.
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