Bobby Mann

[CC33]

He`s really laying it in on twitter re the Dee.

The 1 that caught my eye was
"wish the manager bullied the 1st team players the way he bullied the young team
 sh1t the bed and can take his pals with him"

Thats a strong accusation to come out with.
Something must be going on at Dens ... stories will come out

[gedee]

9 minutes ago, CC33 said:

He`s really laying it in on twitter re the Dee.

The 1 that caught my eye was
"wish the manager bullied the 1st team players the way he bullied the young team
 sh1t the bed and can take his pals with him"

Thats a strong accusation to come out with.
Something must be going on at Dens ... stories will come out

CC I dont do twitter, but it wont be comfortable reading for PH. There may well be a great deal of truth in it ... "stories will come out"

But at this time, I'm not too interested in what is, or has not been going on. My concern is I want to see DFC remain in the Premiership.

The lack of communication or action from the BOD is my biggest concern. Two weeks before the next game Where does that leave dfc.

[8utters]

I heard from a close pal of one of our players from 2 seasons ago that Hartley was not liked by many of the squad (this may have been a lot of the players who were not signed by PH who knew their time at Dens was coming to end). Apparently he had trouble communicating with them directly and lied to this particular player about whether or not he was in the first team plans. Potentially sour grapes but I don't think the player had anything to gain by making this up.

When Cardiff were in for him the majority of the players wanted him to go.

That may not be the case now but it does show it hasn't always been a tight squad right behind the manager.

Any success we have had under Hartley seems to be in spite of him not because of him. IMO Greg Stewart's magic made a huge difference and made PH look much better than he is, earning us points on the back of, what were largely, terrible performances.

This season we have no one to get PH out of trouble.

 

[CC33]

1 minute ago, Gedee said:

CC I dont do twitter, but it wont be comfortable reading for PH. There may well be a great deal of truth in it ... "stories will come out"

But at this time, I'm not too interested in what is, or has not been going on. My concern is I want to see DFC remain in the Premiership.

The lack of communication or action from the BOD is my biggest concern. Two weeks before the next game Where does that leave dfc.

No im not on twitter either , seen someone mention Mann`s twitter so thought id have a look and was quite shocked esp by that statment as its really strong.

[CC33]

1 minute ago, 8utters said:

I heard from a close pal of one of our players from 2 seasons ago that Hartley was not liked by many of the squad (this may have been a lot of the players who were not signed by PH who knew their time at Dens was coming to end). Apparently he had trouble communicating with them directly and lied to this particular player about whether or not he was in the first team plans. Potentially sour grapes but I don't think the player had anything to gain by making this up.

When Cardiff were in for him the majority of the players wanted him to go.

That may not be the case now but it does show it hasn't always been a tight squad right behind the manager.

Any success we have had under Hartley seems to be in spite of him not because of him. IMO Greg Stewart's magic made a huge difference and made PH look much better than he is, earning us points on the back of, what were largely, terrible performances.

This season we have no one to get PH out of trouble.

 

Yer right mate .. i cant see how we are gonna get out of this.
This is PH team .. he assembled it (BADLY)

The prob is we have too many sh1t players on long contracts

[SuperDee]

I heard that Kerr & Wighton weren't allowed to go on the teams xmas night out. 

[8utters]

Just now, CC33 said:

Yer right mate .. i cant see how we are gonna get out of this.
This is PH team .. he assembled it (BADLY)

The prob is we have too many sh1t players on long contracts

Yesterday we looked a team resigned to relegation. Talk before of a Deefiant spirit?? The fans gave their full backing but the players gave us very little to get behind.

PH is entirely to blame, we have some decent players (and plenty who are poor) but they way he sets them up prevents them from playing to their strengths.

It may be too late for any change of manager to make a difference but I'd say we should at least try.

[DFC1974]

I don't think it's too late, but it has to be done imminently as we have 2 weeks until next match. I think a stop-gap appointment of Knox is a very credible shout with a 12 month extension option if he can pull off the miracle of keep us out the bottom 2. 

He might be old and bold but it's his experience that could be our life-line and his no nonsense approach might command the respect that PH had seemingly lost from the players. 

Needs sorting ASAP though. Every day doing nothing is a day wasted.

[gedee]

13 minutes ago, DFC1974 said:

I don't think it's too late, but it has to be done imminently as we have 2 weeks until next match. I think a stop-gap appointment of Knox is a very credible shout with a 12 month extension option if he can pull off the miracle of keep us out the bottom 2. 

He might be old and bold but it's his experience that could be our life-line and his no nonsense approach might command the respect that PH had seemingly lost from the players. 

Needs sorting ASAP though. Every day doing nothing is a day wasted.

Normally I hate anything that interrupts the flow of regular DFC games (International breaks or even Cup Finals)  But this time I see it as blessing.

Things may not happen or change in the next few weeks, but if they did, it does at least give a  new (maybe temporary appointment) wee chance.

Mr Knox seems like someone who could do something, even in this limited time. What is the current position with him? Is he fit or even interested?

Who would he have working alongside him? I know all of this is no more that conjecture. But if nothing happens soon I'll be phoning around myself.

[blythswood]

1 hour ago, CC33 said:

He`s really laying it in on twitter re the Dee.

The 1 that caught my eye was
"wish the manager bullied the 1st team players the way he bullied the young team
 sh1t the bed and can take his pals with him"

Thats a strong accusation to come out with.
Something must be going on at Dens ... stories will come out

Well said big Boab. 

Put him and shitebag Hartley in a room together, the one that comes out gets the manager's gig. 

[Rocky Boy]

1 hour ago, SuperDee said:

I heard that Kerr & Wighton weren't allowed to go on the teams xmas night out. 

You are correct, told to get back to Dundee, while the rest of their team mate's went to the Xmas, night out, they were p*ssed off, but that's one of MANY, he is a bully, Bobby Mann is correct.

[dblair]

9 minutes ago, Rocky Boy said:

You are correct, told to get back to Dundee, while the rest of their team mate's went to the Xmas, night out, they were p*ssed off, but that's one of MANY, he is a bully, Bobby Mann is correct.

What was the reasoning behind that incident?