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3,161 crowd at a game where you paid what you wanted, no price reductions, no special offers.

What are people's thoughts on this? We'd be disgusted (and pretty worried) with a crow like that at Dens, is it a good crowd for ICT?

If DFC did this would the crowd be much bigger than normal, 5 figures say?

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Funnily enough I was asked what I would pay if it was 'pay what you want' going up to Aberdeen on saturday, I reckoned a tenner. I think the last time we did something like this was the Partick game a couple of seasons back and I think that was a fiver. Mind though we've got 4000 ST's who have already paid so there would probably be grumbles if non ST's effectively got in for less than the going rate, I seem to recall a fair few complaints on the old official site after the Partick game, whatever the club do it seems a section of the fans will find something to moan about.  ;)

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That's a truly shocking number mate. ICT are bound to be scunnered with that tbh. Ok, it's a freezing mid winter game against the Fermers but people could have gone for nowt. It shows they truly don't have a supporter base to rely on. Don't know what else they could do really. 3 points of the top of the league, challenging for Europe, cup finals and a team playing some very good football... Must be hugely discouraging for everybody involved with ICT. Bear in mind that Inverness has a population of over 60,000 people.... Probably another 10 - 20,000 people who live close by.

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It appears a poor crowd with that sort of offer on. However it is a midweek game on a freezing cold night with the away fans having to do a 200ish mile round trip up a dangerous road at the best of times. You can't blame folk for thinking "maybe not" for any number of reasons.

Inverness probably have a core support of 3k so I think what this shows is that at any price Scottish football isn't really that attractive to neutral fans. Especially not when Liverpool Chelsea is on in your nice warm house!

Indirectly we are fighting with the English TV teams for floating fans and losing badly. Said it for a while but I really do think summer football is one option that needs serious consideration.

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That's poor, considering it is only 400 up from their average gate.

What we, Dundee, need to do is to get more kids to the ground. This generation is turning to United, because they are more successful than us. Dundee Fc have an ageing fan base.  We need to do more with the kids, get them all in the shankly stand (£10 for adult, kids free), just for a smaller game (like tonight), and put on face painting etc... Now I know, some of you oldies might think, its a football match, not a nursery, but in all reality, we need to get more kids turning up. They are the future of this club. Football has changed from just turning up at 3 to watch a game. Football is a business now, we need to get the kids back, kids want programmes, Dundee top etc.. (more money for the club)

We as a club ,need to start thinking out of the box and start thinking long term.

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That's poor, considering it is only 400 up from their average gate.

What we, Dundee, need to do is to get more kids to the ground. This generation is turning to United, because they are more successful than us. Dundee Fc have an ageing fan base.  We need to do more with the kids, get them all in the shankly stand (£10 for adult, kids free), just for a smaller game (like tonight), and put on face painting etc... Now I know, some of you oldies might think, its a football match, not a nursery, but in all reality, we need to get more kids turning up. They are the future of this club. Football has changed from just turning up at 3 to watch a game. Football is a business now, we need to get the kids back, kids want programmes, Dundee top etc.. (more money for the club)

We as a club ,need to start thinking out of the box and start thinking long term.

Without going off topic, I have to agree with all of this SuperDee

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It appears a poor crowd with that sort of offer on. However it is a midweek game on a freezing cold night with the away fans having to do a 200ish mile round trip up a dangerous road at the best of times. You can't blame folk for thinking "maybe not" for any number of reasons.

Inverness probably have a core support of 3k so I think what this shows is that at any price Scottish football isn't really that attractive to neutral fans. Especially not when Liverpool Chelsea is on in your nice warm house!

Indirectly we are fighting with the English TV teams for floating fans and losing badly. Said it for a while but I really do think summer football is one option that needs serious consideration.

"Summer Football" sounds great as a title Ivan but how does it work in reality? The season (counting pre-season warm up) lasts around 10 months out of 12 in a year, so presuming the 2 months that we would miss would be December & January, you would have a season starting in February (snow falls more regularly in UK at Easter than December) and finishing in November. Every 2 years you would have the massive distraction of World Cup and European Championships right in the middle of the season. It might be better for Scottish teams in European qualifying as they would be 'warmed up' for the early rounds but should any team progress, they would be coming back 'cold' at the important time. You would also still be competing with English football on TV for eight of the 10 months of the season. I just don't get this argument at all

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"Summer Football" sounds great as a title Ivan but how does it work in reality? The season (counting pre-season warm up) lasts around 10 months out of 12 in a year, so presuming the 2 months that we would miss would be December & January, you would have a season starting in February (snow falls more regularly in UK at Easter than December) and finishing in November. Every 2 years you would have the massive distraction of World Cup and European Championships right in the middle of the season. It might be better for Scottish teams in European qualifying as they would be 'warmed up' for the early rounds but should any team progress, they would be coming back 'cold' at the important time. You would also still be competing with English football on TV for eight of the 10 months of the season. I just don't get this argument at all

Just for arguements sake, here is how the Norwegian's play their "summer football". Decent set up if you ask me, with 16 teams playing each other twice, although only then playing 30 games. I guess a split like we do now could be encorporated and so it would mean 37 games. Note they start in March and play until the first week in November.

As of the 2015 season there are 16 clubs in the Tippeligaen, eight of which are located in Eastern Norway, while four clubs are from Western Norway, and two are from north of theArctic Circle.

During the course of a season, each club plays the others twice, home and away, for a total of 30 games for each club, and a total of 240 games in a season. The season starts in March and lasts until early November. Rounds played during the weekends are broken up into one game on Fridays, two games on Saturdays and five games on Sundays. For the final two rounds, all games start simultaneously so that no club may gain an unfair advantage by knowing the results of other games in advance of kicking off their own.

The 16 May round, which is played the day before Norway's Constitution Day, 17 May, is one of the most anticipated rounds of the season. It is often referred to as the "national day of football"[3] and since it precedes a national holiday, games usually see higher attendance than other rounds.[4]

Teams receive three points for a win and one point for a draw. No points are awarded for a loss. Teams are ranked by total points, then goal difference, goals scored, and then head to head records used to separate teams on equal points. At the end of each season, the club with the most points is crowned "League Winner". The title of "Champions" is reserved for the Cup Winners. The two lowest placed teams are automatically relegated to the First Division and the top two teams from the First Division take their place. The fourteenth placed team in Tippeligaen is also in danger of being relegated and must enter play-offs against one team from the First Division to stay in the top flight.

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Does this finally put to bed the myth that the fans would be back in droves if the cost was less?

As Ivan correctly says, we are up against the EPL and losing badly.

EPL Scottish based fans are basically the new Old Firm wan ker outside of Glasgow not supporting local teams.

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