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I find videos of managers giving team talks fascinating. This is one of Zidane. What I find interesting is that he's not at all dominant. I can't help wondering if he's dining out on being a legendary player. Back to back Champions League titles though so he's doing something right. 

 

You watch a Neil Warnock team-talk and you are left in doubt why he's a manager.

 

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Think a lot has to do with the different levels they're at. Players at Zidane's level wouldn't take the sort of attitude Warnock displays. 

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Good videos.

Warnock has always been a notorious nutcase over the years but his record is outstanding. Can't believe he's done it again with Cardiff. A proper old school manager.

Zidanes talk seemed very simplistic but it seemed quite motivational. 

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Watched "Open Goal" presented by Si Ferry.

McManus said in his interview that in big games players need to be calmed down rather than pumped up by managers. I've never really thought of that and it makes sense, great wee insight imo.

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11 minutes ago, SM1893 said:

Watched "Open Goal" presented by Si Ferry.

McManus said in his interview that in big games players need to be calmed down rather than pumped up by managers. I've never really thought of that and it makes sense, great wee insight imo.

Interesting SM. Hadn't thought about that.

When I played football I zoned out at team-talks. I wasn't interested. I knew what I had to do. I either played well or I didn't. That was my view of things anyway.

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9 minutes ago, Cobra said:

Interesting SM. Hadn't thought about that.

When I played football I zoned out at team-talks. I wasn't interested. I knew what I had to do. I either played well or I didn't. That was my view of things anyway.

I get that, I work with boys and some are similar to yourself and don't really focus during team talks. Each player is different.

For me it's a very fine line between being informative and engaging and just waffling. I like to give players as much info and instruction as possible. Whether they use it or not is entirely on them. I may not always be right either.

Its incredibly easy to see players zoning out and is quite frustrating. If they do the business then it doesn't really matter

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2 minutes ago, SM1893 said:

I get that, I work with boys and some are similar to yourself and don't really focus during team talks. Each player is different.

For me it's a very fine line between being informative and engaging and just waffling. I like to give players as much info and instruction as possible. Whether they use it or not is entirely on them. I may not always be right either.

Its incredibly easy to see players zoning out and is quite frustrating. If they do the business then it doesn't really matter

Really interesting post mate. I'm a bit reclusive in terms of internal thought process but very vocal on the park. Never really thought about how normal or unusual that is.

The weird thing for me is I wasn't interested in the team as a kid. It was all about me. When me knee went and i started playing for fun I started being a team player. I think psychology is maybe an overlooked thing in football.

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9 hours ago, Cobra said:

Really interesting post mate. I'm a bit reclusive in terms of internal thought process but very vocal on the park. Never really thought about how normal or unusual that is.

The weird thing for me is I wasn't interested in the team as a kid. It was all about me. When me knee went and i started playing for fun I started being a team player. I think psychology is maybe an overlooked thing in football.

I've thought this for a long time, if a player can have a 'game of their life' then they're capable of playing like that more often, its about unlocking what holds them back the rest of the time.

I was a rugger bu**er more than a footballer and used to play with guys who'd be slapping themselves in the face and growling to psych themselves up prematch. I never could, I didn't really get my 'game on' until after I'd been hit in a tackle or someone had taken a swing in the scrum or whatever. We're all different and will need to handled differently.

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6 minutes ago, chomp my root said:

We're all different and will need to handled differently.

Eh'm mair the "touchy-feely-cuddly" kind, Big Boy !!

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3 minutes ago, Gedee said:

Eh'm mair the "touchy-feely-cuddly" kind, Big Boy !!

I don't think will be a surprise to any of us mate. ?

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To be fair, I doubt that the Warnock bollockings were weekly. I think he certainly took no shite but I just think that the video that always gets shared is maybe a bit misrepresentative. A couple of games to go in the season and you are playing a team who are kicking you off the park and things are falling apart, it seems like it was maybe a last resort.

I don't really think any manager could really scream their way to success.

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13 hours ago, CW 90+3 02/05/16 said:

Warnock has always been a notorious nutcase over the years but his record is outstanding. Can't believe he's done it again with Cardiff. A proper old school manager.

 

8 (Eight) times Managing a team to promotion. No need to say anymore.

 

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20 minutes ago, chomp my root said:

I've thought this for a long time, if a player can have a 'game of their life' then they're capable of playing like that more often, its about unlocking what holds them back the rest of the time.

I was a rugger bu**er more than a footballer and used to play with guys who'd be slapping themselves in the face and growling to psych themselves up prematch. I never could, I didn't really get my 'game on' until after I'd been hit in a tackle or someone had taken a swing in the scrum or whatever. We're all different and will need to handled differently.

The one game who I think would be a really interesting case study for a psychologist was the day at Cappielow a few years back where it seemed we through the league away.

Supporters and players all looked pretty distraught and prepared for a thumping from the first minute and it seemed inevitable that we were just going to score. The longer the match went on, you could sense that Mortons players and supporters realised that the game was winnable and it just felt like the whole atmosphere was turning.

Like you say, everyone just reacts differently and it's so hard to quantify. I've played in teams where we've all been down on our luck and been unable to defend any simple cross in the box against poor level opposition and then a week later, we're keeping a clean sheet in a cup final against a very high quality junior side who are flooding the box with crosses and I've went from Samson to Schmeichel. It's part of the reason I can get quite pissed off when fans pick on certain players, they aren't trying to lose but sometimes unlocking your best is difficult.

The first thing I'd be doing (well actually, the first thing would really be to resign since I'm woefully unqualified) if appointed a manager of a club at Dundee's level would be to go and meet a sports psychologist ASAP.

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On 08/05/2018 at 10:57, harry94 said:

The one game who I think would be a really interesting case study for a psychologist was the day at Cappielow a few years back where it seemed we through the league away.

Supporters and players all looked pretty distraught and prepared for a thumping from the first minute and it seemed inevitable that we were just going to score. The longer the match went on, you could sense that Mortons players and supporters realised that the game was winnable and it just felt like the whole atmosphere was turning.

Like you say, everyone just reacts differently and it's so hard to quantify. I've played in teams where we've all been down on our luck and been unable to defend any simple cross in the box against poor level opposition and then a week later, we're keeping a clean sheet in a cup final against a very high quality junior side who are flooding the box with crosses and I've went from Samson to Schmeichel. It's part of the reason I can get quite pissed off when fans pick on certain players, they aren't trying to lose but sometimes unlocking your best is difficult.

The first thing I'd be doing (well actually, the first thing would really be to resign since I'm woefully unqualified) if appointed a manager of a club at Dundee's level would be to go and meet a sports psychologist ASAP.

Great post. This is a hugely overlooked part of the game at any level.

It’s a huge part of the reason why over the last decade or so I’ve always regarded Iniesta as the best player in the world, even amongst the likes of Messi and Ronaldo.  

His ability is never in question but when you put that together with a mindset that enables him to produce his absolute best when it matters most - MoM in World Cup Final, Euro Champs Final and Champs League Final - then you have the strength to win from almost any position.

That belief needs to be worked on, just as much as a players first touch, and if it is important enough for the worlds best to do so then it should also be the case for the pros at the level we watch every week.

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