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'The Mood Has Been Great' . James McPake.


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Firstly, apologies if someone else has already added following link (I'm still catching up)...https://dundeefc.co.uk/news/the-mood-has-been-great/

I already watched/tried to listen, to his video comments...But being now a bit hard of hearing, it's much easier (& better) to read what he had to say.

Chances are, all of you will have either read this, or listened/watched video, but even so it's good to hear something good positive coming from DFC.

Although I am not advocating James is a shoe-in for the permanent role of DFC Manager, it's good to read/see/hear the respect he has for the Club.

Maybe at end of the day, we could do much worse. But whatever way it pans out, and we do want the best. It's good to know it's not all bad news:chaplin:

 

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I love McPake, he was an excellent captain for Dundee and an excellent coach. He was also brilliant with my nephew when he was a mascot, so one day I would love to see McPake as manager.

However, I just feel this might be too early for him. The job at Dundee is massive, not only the size of the club but the level of expectations from the stand, it’s a total rebuild job. 97% or more of Dundee managers end up getting sacked and very few are in a job today. I’d hate to see McPake management career being stopped because we rushed him into the job.

McPake has a done a great job with the U18’s. It’s time to maintain the coaching ‘buzz’ for him and move him from the Academy to the first team, perhaps a coach or assistant to our new manager. Learn the trade for 3/4 seasons and the demands of first-team management and hopefully, during that time we can be promoted from the championship and get rid of the sacking culture and create a plan for moving forward. I read a journalist saying that St Johnstone brought in Derek McInnes so why not hire McPake, however that is St Johnstone who aren’t a sacking culture of a club. A few supporters said no to Goodwin due to his inexperience, but he has been a manager of a first team before at a smaller club.

Even McCann was assistant manager to Jim Jefferies for a while to learn the trade at that level. 

I just don’t want to see McPake getting hurt by the brutal managerial culture this early on in his career.

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I'm worried that we'll see a positive result on Saturday and an encouraging display and that that will be enough to see McPake being viewed as a serious contender for the job. I doubt that if Nelms asks for outside opinions on McPake that there will be many with anything negative to say and that might influence things further. I personally think that we need experience, with someone like Derek Adams probably the best we can realistically expect. I'd like to see McPake involved in some capacity at first team level though.

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10 minutes ago, Dondeh said:

Don't get this ...'we want to finish the season on a high....'  stuff.

There is absolutely nothing that could finish a 2 sacked Mangers, 21 pt , automatic relegation season on a 'high'   

If we played some kids and won convincingly it wouldn't change the fact that we're relegated to the Championship but it would send us away home with something positive to think about over the summer. It would be scant consolation but it's about all we can hope to take from a disastrous season. It may not be what we'd expect when talking about the highs in football but right now it's as high as things can possibly get.

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It would be very unfortunate for the club and McPake if a new manager brought in his own staff, as I think PH did, and decided to bin the current coaches. The considerable money we've invested in McPake getting his UEFA Coaching Licence would be down the pan. Hope whatever happens, he can continue his good work at our club.

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1 minute ago, Blue4evr said:

It would be very unfortunate for the club and McPake if a new manager brought in his own staff, as I think PH did, and decided to bin the current coaches. The considerable money we've invested in McPake getting his UEFA Coaching Licence would be down the pan. Hope whatever happens, he can continue his good work at our club.

I'm hoping with the portfolio of coaches that the club is building up that we can have a conveyor belt of some sorts with clear pathways to the first team. McPake & Irvine are obviously well known to us but others like McNaughton & Wright are here too. Hopefully these guys can be considered for the top team at some point down the line.

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I think the best for me,  was not only his sensible, thoughtful comments, it was also his quiet, respectful manner in conveying them, which tbh, I kinda expected of him. He came over as a person who's genuine & honest & appreciative of the Club & all that it has done for him, at a time when it could well have turned it''s back on him ... reflecting & reminding us at again, that there is still a little good, positive, decent news & feelings for DFC, & all the staff from top to bottom. And maybe next season could see a change of fortunes

Think the general feeling at this time, is that it may be a bit too early, to consider him as DFC manager ...

I would not disagree with that sentiment. But who really knows? He has proven in the past (as a player)

he has the right kind of qualities to be a winner. He now has the Qualifications ... Maybe being involved,

in a Club he loves and respects, & in turn think highly of him, is exactly where he should gain experience.

Nothing's going to be decided tomorrow, win or lose. But whatever future holds James, all the best:chaplin:

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Could McPake have same kind of impact at Dundee that Alex Neil had at Accies? It's certainly possible. He's an impressive character.

McIntyre's decade of experience proved worthless so maybe appointing a "proven" coach isn't necessary. We won't be coming up against the best teams and managers in this league so there is room for error.

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4 hours ago, Reverend Lovejoy said:

I'm worried that we'll see a positive result on Saturday and an encouraging display and that that will be enough to see McPake being viewed as a serious contender for the job. I doubt that if Nelms asks for outside opinions on McPake that there will be many with anything negative to say and that might influence things further. I personally think that we need experience, with someone like Derek Adams probably the best we can realistically expect. I'd like to see McPake involved in some capacity at first team level though.

Totally agree Rev but some bookies have him joint favourite for the job even before he has taken charge of a game so they already appear to see him as a serious contender.  I really like McPake and he really seems to love the club. Would love to see him as manager some day but just don’t think the time is right at moment and think McPake himself  might well agree. Would hate to him being given the job and it all go pear shaped as he is A very likeable guy and think if we manage his coaching development properly he can be a real asset to the club at all levels for quite a few years. 

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