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None of us want to see violence at games, and DFC do not have a reputation for being involved in violence, but I just wondered what people remember from the past.

The Clydebank game sticks in my mind. I watched it on Scotsport (midweek I think) incredulous at the scenes. The crazy thing is we didn't (as far as I'm aware) get punished.

Anyone recall violent scenes from the past involving Dees?

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The time arsehole United fans invaded the pitch and one of them decided to attacked big Rab and got more than he bargained for.

It was the 100th Dundee Derby match which we won too.

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9 minutes ago, Cobra said:

None of us want to see violence at games, and DFC do not have a reputation for being involved in violence, but I just wondered what people remember from the past.

The Clydebank game sticks in my mind. I watched in midweek Scotsport incredulous at the scenes. The crazy thing is we didn't (as far as I'm aware) get punished.

Anyone recall violent scenes from the past involving Dees?

Shocking stuff from our own fans. Where there any fans actually banned from Dens for this?

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I followed Dundee during the casuals era but don't remember seeing any violence. The two times I saw fighting was the one time I went to a United v Aberdeen game (my only visit to Tannadice when Dundee weren't playing) and Scotland v England (the last ever Rous Cup game).

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I followed Dundee during the casuals era but don't remember seeing any violence. The two times I saw fighting was the one time I went to a United v Aberdeen game (my only visit to Tannadice when Dundee weren't playing) and Scotland v England (the last ever Rous Cup game).

The day that we beat Celtic was a day I remember. Was only a young lad and I had never witnessed anything like what I saw that day. Battles between Dundee and Celtic fans down Dens Road. Bottles being thrown left right and centre.....

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Dunfermline away in early 70s was always bad 

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18 minutes ago, jojo gunn said:

Dunfermline away in early 70s was always bad 

See, this is a nugget of information that I like to see. Who would have thought that Dundee visiting East End Park in the 1970s would regularly lead to a flare-up of violence?

A select number of older Dees hold onto these memories and it's great when they share stuff. It's good to focus on the positive things that happened on the park but football in the 1970s and 80s was a violent time and we don't really talk about that.

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30 minutes ago, jojo gunn said:

Dunfermline away in early 70s was always bad 

Wiz this the time you and Googsy hotfooted it to Glenfarg for a few ales after getting oot the Halbeath Rd by the skin of yir teeth?🤣

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I'm sure Dundee had a group of casuals back in the 1980s. Did they arrange fights with other sets of fans? Somebody on here must remember what went on.

It doesn't reflect badly on the club in 2019 so I don't think it matters talking about it now. Those scraps were part of football back in the day.

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6 hours ago, Cobra said:

None of us want to see violence at games, and DFC do not have a reputation for being involved in violence, but I just wondered what people remember from the past.

The Clydebank game sticks in my mind. I watched it on Scotsport (midweek I think) incredulous at the scenes. The crazy thing is we didn't (as far as I'm aware) get punished.

Anyone recall violent scenes from the past involving Dees?

Cobra, I remember it well, I was at it. The cultured left foot of Davie Cooper

 

 

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4 hours ago, Cobra said:

I'm sure Dundee had a group of casuals back in the 1980s. Did they arrange fights with other sets of fans? Somebody on here must remember what went on.

It doesn't reflect badly on the club in 2019 so I don't think it matters talking about it now. Those scraps were part of football back in the day.

There were always battles with the Hibs Fans, Home and away.

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We featured in the Danny Dyer documentary The Real Football Factory. Basically, we united with Utd to create a combined squad. A relative of a relative did jail time as a Dundee Casual. This was after my time going to away games but I always remember trouble at Easter Road. I also remember very well the Celtic game John mentioned above - the one and only time I felt genuinely scared at a game. A fair few incidents at Ibrox - remember with a smile our window being broken at Parkhead and a while later Tosh McKinlay passed the bus - "They panned oor windae in Tosh" shouted one of the guys - I'm sure Tosh could see that for himself! A few guys were pissing out of it on the road home - happy days!

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7 hours ago, Cobra said:

I'm sure Dundee had a group of casuals back in the 1980s. Did they arrange fights with other sets of fans? Somebody on here must remember what went on.

It doesn't reflect badly on the club in 2019 so I don't think it matters talking about it now. Those scraps were part of football back in the day.

Dundee Utility were a force. I knew a few lads who were main players and organised meets. They weren’t restricted to match days either. Perth was a popular venue because of the transport links and folk used to meet there to sort out the scores.  

It’s a period in my life when I stopped going to Dundee games. The age I was at the time meant you often got targeted or drawn into it by default going to and from games whether you liked it or not. Folk were carrying blades and I really couldn’t see the buzz in risking being stabbed or seeing others on the receiving end every Saturday afternoon. Started going back to games around mid-90’s and have been going ever since. 

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13 hours ago, Cobra said:

The Clydebank game sticks in my mind. I watched it on Scotsport (midweek I think) incredulous at the scenes. The crazy thing is we didn't (as far as I'm aware) get punished.

 

Cobra I think we did get punished, was this not a Scottish cup match and we had to have the reply at Stirlings ground? Also the guys involved weren't casuals they were just fans who got carried away, the utility generally didn't mix with the "scarfers" and left 10 minutes before the end to scuffle outside the ground.

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14 hours ago, jojo gunn said:

Dunfermline away in early 70s was always bad 

I remember when Clockwork Orange had been released at the cinemas and a number of Dundee fans arrived at Dunfermline wearing their crombies; bowlers and false eyelashes looking for a fight but singing "Singing In The Rain". Surreal. Easter Rd and the infamous bridge was always a war zone back then.

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