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56 minutes ago, WeighorstsWang said:

I don't believe that's so. Dorian's is an opportunity we couldn't (and shouldn't) have passed up. 

Ness and Byrne sitting. Dorrans ahead of them in a free role with McDaid on one wing and McPake (he has to be given a run) on the other. That leaves Robertson to come in for any of the 3 in the middle. It's ideal, IMO.

Totally agree 

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1 hour ago, WeighorstsWang said:

I don't believe that's so. Dorian's is an opportunity we couldn't (and shouldn't) have passed up. 

Ness and Byrne sitting. Dorrans ahead of them in a free role with McDaid on one wing and McPake (he has to be given a run) on the other. That leaves Robertson to come in for any of the 3 in the middle. It's ideal, IMO.

Agree about signing Dorrans, as long as he plays further forward. What I don't agree is playing McPake. Nowhere near ready for this level. He only got on because we have no one else to play  there. ( my original point ). Also that would be Robertson and Gowser out of the team. IMO.

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2 hours ago, harry94 said:

So, is Todd injured or what? I know some haven't been impressed but I genuinely think he's been fine, a bit frustrating but did a job V Aberdeen when deployed in a physical battle and has always been a hard working player when I've seen him over the years.

Todd has been injured but even when he was fit, JMP preferred Nelson in that wide midfield role.  Todd should be a shoe-in for that position imo.  Goes back to what I was saying about playing your best players in their best positions.  At no time in the last few games has Andrew Nelson looked comfortable or effective in that position - in fact it was an accident waiting to happen. I do feel sorry for the lad.  He was getting it in the neck from a couple of players last night after the 2nd goal including one experienced player who failed to show up himself.

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36 minutes ago, Attilio said:

Todd has been injured but even when he was fit, JMP preferred Nelson in that wide midfield role.  Todd should be a shoe-in for that position imo.  Goes back to what I was saying about playing your best players in their best positions.  At no time in the last few games has Andrew Nelson looked comfortable or effective in that position - in fact it was an accident waiting to happen. I do feel sorry for the lad.  He was getting it in the neck from a couple of players last night after the 2nd goal including one experienced player who failed to show up himself.

Playing the lad out of his favoured position is daft. Better being a sub and showing what you can do . I hope it’s not just to keep the player happy when he hasn’t been getting a start- that’s no way to pick a team

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6 hours ago, harry94 said:

So, is Todd injured or what? I know some haven't been impressed but I genuinely think he's been fine, a bit frustrating but did a job V Aberdeen when deployed in a physical battle and has always been a hard working player when I've seen him over the years.

Agree I think Todd would have contributed more than McDaid last night.  Also would have Finn instead of Nelson.  Hindsight helps but we needed to be very strong defensively in midfield and we fell short with mcdaid Nelson and then wee mcpake 

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6 hours ago, harry94 said:

So, is Todd injured or what?

JMP says he's back doing some training but his wound (from the stitches), needs to be monitored.

Think that could be code for ......punted in January.....

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Do players ever get coaching in basic skills, like tackling? Seems to me Nelson is making the same type of mistake each time he got booked. I would have thought that such consistent fouls must come from a basic flaw in technique.Rugby players spend hours practising tackling. Just wondered how this skill, which I think we are rubbish at, is drilled in practice.

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22 hours ago, surreydee said:

Agree I think Todd would have contributed more than McDaid last night.  Also would have Finn instead of Nelson.  Hindsight helps but we needed to be very strong defensively in midfield and we fell short with mcdaid Nelson and then wee mcpake 

Not sure Todd has been given a fair chance, maybe because it was who that signed him being the problem, I think he is a better option than Nelson given where we are playing him at present. It is too much too soon for young McPake at this time and he should return to his club in January. 

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That’s another point people are also questioning, we sign Dorrans and don’t play him in his correct position, he’s playing deeper than where we need him. Yes he has been very good but in the final third of the pitch is where we want and need him, not 5 yards in front of the centre half . 
 

I just listened to the radio Scotland podcast from Fridays game, Willie Miller is questioning McPakes start to the season and the teams setup. 

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6 minutes ago, BigG said:

Willie Miller is questioning McPakes start to the season and the teams setup. 

The guy that's never managed a fish supper?.🤔🙈

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37 minutes ago, Reverend Lovejoy said:

The guy that's never managed a fish supper?.🤔🙈

I stopped listening to people like him a long time ago, they're only really interested in Celtic, Rangers or Aberdeen.

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2 hours ago, Reverend Lovejoy said:

The guy that's never managed a fish supper?.🤔🙈

He was Aberdeen manager 1992 - 1995.

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2 hours ago, Prince Buster said:

He was Aberdeen manager 1992 - 1995.

......and almost succeeded in relegating them for the first time in their history. 

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I think Johnson was brought in as an alternative to Nelson and the idea was both would get plenty gametime as the main striker. Then Hemmings became available. That's created a bit of a problem as you have three fairly high-profile players all vying for one jersey. McPake's solution allows Nelson to get minutes but it's not really doing the team any favours.

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23 hours ago, Reverend Lovejoy said:

The guy that's never managed a fish supper?.🤔🙈

Actually, Rev, he did manage a fish supper (restaurant) on Beach Boulevard, beside the cinema/casino.....but something in it scared the customers away. 😂  

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2 hours ago, WoodStein said:

Actually, Rev, he did manage a fish supper (restaurant) on Beach Boulevard, beside the cinema/casino.....but something in it scared the customers away. 😂  

I think Falling out with the in laws and the sudden barbecue night that burnt the place down could have been contributing factors. 

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22 hours ago, Cobra said:

I think Johnson was brought in as an alternative to Nelson and the idea was both would get plenty gametime as the main striker. Then Hemmings became available. That's created a bit of a problem as you have three fairly high-profile players all vying for one jersey. McPake's solution allows Nelson to get minutes but it's not really doing the team any favours.

I think this has actually created a major problem for McPake. The centre forward position is arguably our strongest yet we can only get one of the three on the park in thier favoured position. This imo has left the team unbalanced and is a major headache for McPake. Doubt Johnson would even have been signed had if Hemmings had come in first. 

McPake really needs to find a solution to this problem. 

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2 hours ago, Dundeefc1783 said:

I think this has actually created a major problem for McPake. The centre forward position is arguably our strongest yet we can only get one of the three on the park in thier favoured position. This imo has left the team unbalanced and is a major headache for McPake. Doubt Johnson would even have been signed had if Hemmings had come in first. 

McPake really needs to find a solution to this problem. 

This isn't just McPake's problem. Surely, Strachan Nicholl and Mackay have to give him some input? The midfield must be a contributing factor. For a very long time we have not managed to play 2 up front. Hartley couldn't do it and McCann and McIntyre perhaps had less talent to work with but they really struggled too. We even struggled to play a creative mid in Allan and to my mind there's something wrong with what we are trying to do and it's been that way for a while. 

Good thing is there should be enough talent to work out a solution and get it working. 

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2 hours ago, Dundeefc1783 said:

I think this has actually created a major problem for McPake. The centre forward position is arguably our strongest yet we can only get one of the three on the park in thier favoured position. This imo has left the team unbalanced and is a major headache for McPake. Doubt Johnson would even have been signed had if Hemmings had come in first. 

McPake really needs to find a solution to this problem. 

I'm not sure there is a solution. Three of our best players are centre forwards and none of them are effective in other positions. Two up top doesn't appear to be a viable option for the team so we either have one or two high-profile unhappy players around the club or we play them in roles that don't suit them.

Come January we might want to send Nelson or Johnson on loan and bring in a more versatile attacker.

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14 minutes ago, BCram said:

This isn't just McPake's problem. Surely, Strachan Nicholl and Mackay have to give him some input? The midfield must be a contributing factor. For a very long time we have not managed to play 2 up front. Hartley couldn't do it and McCann and McIntyre perhaps had less talent to work with but they really struggled too. We even struggled to play a creative mid in Allan and to my mind there's something wrong with what we are trying to do and it's been that way for a while. 

Good thing is there should be enough talent to work out a solution and get it working. 

I doubt Strachan is having more than a slight passing interest in the first team.

He's not part of the coaching staff. 

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