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Harold Finch

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There has been a lot posted about bringing in a manager that will "sort this lot out" a hardline manager that will take no sh*t from the players.

Bomber was that type of manager but the players had no respect for him due to his attitude towards them. The fans didn't respect him as they saw him as a Hun and a joke

McCann was that type of manager and quickly lost the dressing room as the senior players didn't respect him. The fans didn't respect him as he was seen as a pundit that wasn't first choice.

McIntyre was always on a hiding to nothing with him being an ex Dab and wanting to bring Dodds in as his assistant. His ego saw him bin a lot of McCann's players without giving them a real chance and replacing them with players he knew, most of them let him and us down.

McPake had the respect of the younger players when managing the under age teams but he hasn't been able to transfer that to the first team dressing room.

Three things earn you that respect in the dressing room, man management (being consistent in how you treat people), tactics (how you manage the team during the game), and results, especially results in what are seen as big games. It appears that McPake is failing in all three things

We don't need a manager that's ego sees them take no sh*t and wants to clear out the squad yet again, nor do we need a manager that's a soft touch to the senior players, we need a manager that will quickly earn the respect of the players and the fans, once he has done that we will see a real change in the atmosphere both in the dressing room and in the stands.

 

 

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A good post Harold, but I disagree with a couple of points. The fans did not initially respect John Brown, but they certainly did by the end of his tenure. He has the best SPL record of any Dundee manager. The players very much respected Brown. 

I also wouldn't say that McPake had the respect of the younger players. The constant formation changes were ludicrous in the u18s. Darren O'Dea was well respected and this has been recognised as Celtic quickly moved for him when he went to Motherwell. 

McPake seems to be able to scout and recruit well, and would have probably been ideal in Stephen Wright's role with a scouting remit also. Unfortunately he has been promoted too far too quickly and is now looking a total mess. It's painful to watch, and his last throw of the dice, playing youths, backfired horrendously last night. 

There's nothing to be gained from allowing this fiasco to continue any longer. We will simply lose more fans, if that's even possible now, and the level of anger will increase rapidly. 

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1 hour ago, Harold Finch said:

There has been a lot posted about bringing in a manager that will "sort this lot out" a hardline manager that will take no sh*t from the players.

Bomber was that type of manager but the players had no respect for him due to his attitude towards them. The fans didn't respect him as they saw him as a Hun and a joke

McCann was that type of manager and quickly lost the dressing room as the senior players didn't respect him. The fans didn't respect him as he was seen as a pundit that wasn't first choice.

McIntyre was always on a hiding to nothing with him being an ex Dab and wanting to bring Dodds in as his assistant. His ego saw him bin a lot of McCann's players without giving them a real chance and replacing them with players he knew, most of them let him and us down.

McPake had the respect of the younger players when managing the under age teams but he hasn't been able to transfer that to the first team dressing room.

Three things earn you that respect in the dressing room, man management (being consistent in how you treat people), tactics (how you manage the team during the game), and results, especially results in what are seen as big games. It appears that McPake is failing in all three things

We don't need a manager that's ego sees them take no sh*t and wants to clear out the squad yet again, nor do we need a manager that's a soft touch to the senior players, we need a manager that will quickly earn the respect of the players and the fans, once he has done that we will see a real change in the atmosphere both in the dressing room and in the stands.

 

 

In other words, "Mc P out and a decent manager in ".

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