DeeMo Posted 19 March 2020 Report Share Posted 19 March 2020 3 hours ago, chomp my root said: I bet you are. How much ? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrak Posted 19 March 2020 Report Share Posted 19 March 2020 On 08/03/2020 at 19:06, chomp my root said: A quick look through my last 6 months (all I can see easily) tells me that I've put 10 quid in and taken 30 out in that time. I've got 9 quid in my account too. So as a gambler myself I'm curious where I stand on the gamble/paedo calculator, I reckon I'd be a 'cop a feel in a crowd' type paedo going by my gambling habits but happy to be told otherwise. I'm not sure why I (and my missus who gambles on a similar level to myself) should have to stop betting because some people have trouble with gambling. We should maybe ban booze because some have issues with that too. Just ban everything and let the government tell us how to live, they could put us on rations so none of us eat too much either..... I find the idea of just banning betting fanciful, no more national lottery then for starters.... A lot of people like a bet, its an age old 'thing', its not going to stop so like other banned stuff, criminals will fill the void. Alternatively we could reintroduce the gambling tax and target it at the bookies, a percentage of it could even be used to try and combat the problem gamblers. Now where are those sexy wee kids..... Right Chomp, I'll bite now that there is no actual football to worry think about. I let the paedo joke slide. I'm certain you didn't mean anything by it other than to ridicule my comparison of different vices. I'll take that. It was a long stretch, I admit, but not entirely off the mark. To continue the light hearted ridicule theme, are you actually suggesting that everyone would have to agree to ban something before it would be banned? Just think about that for a few seconds. Granted it is difficult deciding where to draw a line between banning and allowing or rather the degree to which it is regulated. I don't think either of us have enough knowledge to have a proper discussion about where the regulation line should be drawn. But maybe we can agree that the proliferation of online gambling markets and the wall to wall advertising coverage should be at least limited? I do actually agree that banning it outright would simply open the way for criminals to pray on the simple minded and vulnerable and there is probably no way to avoid that. The idea of a gambling Tax, tight controls on advertsing, and perhaps a pre-bet deposit scheme (where gamblers would have to deposit a certain amount before gambling which they would only get back once the betting session was finished with the gambler thereafter not allowed to gamble again for a certain period of time. Gamblers might only be allowed one account that would require a pasport or NI number to open to ensure they only had one. That's a bit complicated but it would certainly allow you and your lovely wife to indulge your extremely infrequent or very low cost habit. Also, of course, it would spare those little kiddies any distress from your arthritic digits. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeMo Posted 19 March 2020 Report Share Posted 19 March 2020 52 minutes ago, andrak said: I let the paedo joke slide. I'm certain you didn't mean anything by it other than to ridicule my comparison of different vices. I'll take that. It was a long stretch, I admit, but not entirely off the mark. It is completely off the mark. To compare gambling to pedophilia is just wrong. To compare nearly anything to pedophilia is wrong. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chomp my root Posted 20 March 2020 Report Share Posted 20 March 2020 11 hours ago, andrak said: Right Chomp, I'll bite now that there is no actual football to worry think about. I let the paedo joke slide. I'm certain you didn't mean anything by it other than to ridicule my comparison of different vices. I'll take that. It was a long stretch, I admit, but not entirely off the mark. To continue the light hearted ridicule theme, are you actually suggesting that everyone would have to agree to ban something before it would be banned? Just think about that for a few seconds. Granted it is difficult deciding where to draw a line between banning and allowing or rather the degree to which it is regulated. I don't think either of us have enough knowledge to have a proper discussion about where the regulation line should be drawn. But maybe we can agree that the proliferation of online gambling markets and the wall to wall advertising coverage should be at least limited? I do actually agree that banning it outright would simply open the way for criminals to pray on the simple minded and vulnerable and there is probably no way to avoid that. The idea of a gambling Tax, tight controls on advertsing, and perhaps a pre-bet deposit scheme (where gamblers would have to deposit a certain amount before gambling which they would only get back once the betting session was finished with the gambler thereafter not allowed to gamble again for a certain period of time. Gamblers might only be allowed one account that would require a pasport or NI number to open to ensure they only had one. That's a bit complicated but it would certainly allow you and your lovely wife to indulge your extremely infrequent or very low cost habit. Also, of course, it would spare those little kiddies any distress from your arthritic digits. You seem to have a real bug up your bahookie about this. I'd suggest a one man dirty protest outside Hollyrood, if that doesn't bring an immediate end to gambling in every way, shape and form then I don't know what will..... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrak Posted 20 March 2020 Report Share Posted 20 March 2020 16 minutes ago, chomp my root said: You seem to have a real bug up your bahookie about this. I'd suggest a one man dirty protest outside Hollyrood, if that doesn't bring an immediate end to gambling in every way, shape and form then I don't know what will..... I'm of an age when I have many many bugs up my bahookie. I have a feeling that we are about to discover on this forum just how many bugs we all have up our bahookies. It might get unbearable very quickly. I might suspend my contributions for a few months. Very few of my bugs are actually about football. I need to find a place to write them. TDB is not that place. Take care chomp and everyone else. I want to see you all back here when we have football to talk about. Andrew 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reverend Lovejoy Posted 20 March 2020 Report Share Posted 20 March 2020 On 23/02/2020 at 22:21, barkblue said: Have to say that I don't understand the obsession with gambling. All the lads round me at the football do it and I take an interest in how they got on but I've never set foot in a bookies or placed an online bet. Personally I'd ban gambling/bingo/casino game advertising on TV and especially during games but I do seem to be some sort of freak when it comes to this sort of thing. I'm the same, the wife goes to the bookies and I'll stick a coupon on from time to time if she brings them home but I wouldn't step into a bookies myself as I wouldn't have a Scooby where to start. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reverend Lovejoy Posted 20 March 2020 Report Share Posted 20 March 2020 On 24/02/2020 at 16:43, DeeMo said: To compare gambling to slavery, racism and paedophilia is just absolutely mad. There is just no comparison. 100% agree. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeMo Posted 21 March 2020 Report Share Posted 21 March 2020 16 hours ago, Reverend Lovejoy said: 100% agree. Thank you, it beggars belief anyone can compare the two things. I enjoy a punt and that really sickened me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chomp my root Posted 21 March 2020 Report Share Posted 21 March 2020 20 hours ago, Reverend Lovejoy said: I'm the same, the wife goes to the bookies and I'll stick a coupon on from time to time if she brings them home but I wouldn't step into a bookies myself as I wouldn't have a Scooby where to start. I was rarely in a bookies until I was in my 40's, ended up working with an old mate who liked his football accumulators on a saturday and got me into it. I used to do a fiver bet on a saturday. A few years later I started betting online, I would put 25 quid in and it had to last me at least a month (often a lot longer) and when it got to 75 quid I'd take out 50, that only happened a couple times though. Now its fivers I put in and I've not been in a bookie in months, my fiver punt got dropped to 2 quid as well although I was betting on less teams (I only really bet on football, I delude myself its something I know about) so it came in more often, anywhere from about 20 to 40 quid. I know what you mean about not having a scooby though, there was a lot of different slips that you could bet on, all a bit intimidating for this simple soul. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Posted 21 March 2020 Author Report Share Posted 21 March 2020 I was always a low stakes gambler but I was at a Dundee game about 8 years ago when I was absolutely convinced Gareth Bale would score for Spurs so I put £50 on it. I won and thought "sh*t, I could make a lot of money quite quickly by betting higher amounts". This is a trap that many people have fallen into. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chomp my root Posted 24 March 2020 Report Share Posted 24 March 2020 On 21/03/2020 at 18:23, Cobra said: I was always a low stakes gambler but I was at a Dundee game about 8 years ago when I was absolutely convinced Gareth Bale would score for Spurs so I put £50 on it. I won and thought "sh*t, I could make a lot of money quite quickly by betting higher amounts". This is a trap that many people have fallen into. I worked with a guy a while back who bet big, really big and was successful at it for quite a while, eventually though he did feck it all up. Fortunately he had a good job and this was a 'sideline' and he was able to just walk away from it. He started with a grand (taken from savings) and bet on sure things (I know, I know...) like if someone was 2 sets up at tennis and winning the third set he'd bet thousands to win a hundred or 50 quid. He built it up to 16 grand and by this stage was betting 5 grand bets. Inevitably he lost one and started trying to rebuild his pot taking less safe bets and blew the lot. He was a character, another one of his 'get rich quick' ideas was doing porn Kindle books, there was always some Delboy scheme that he was up to. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeMo Posted 24 March 2020 Report Share Posted 24 March 2020 Betting a pound a day on the Irish racing. Up to £3.20 after 3 days and have my pound bet on for today. The 1st horse I picked won 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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