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Thought this might be an interesting time to make a comparison of our last season in this division with John Brown as manager versus this season with McPake given that Brown was sacked after a home draw with Alloa, in which they undeservedly equalised in the 94th minute. 

 

When John Brown was sacked-

P22  W12  D4  L6  Pts 40  GD +16

Position - Joint top with Falkirk. 

 

Currently McPake -

P25  W10  D7  L8  Pts 37  GD -1 

Position 4th.

 

So Bomber left us in a great position and with more points despite less games played than McPake, and he wasn't exactly in a terrible run of form either, in the lead up to his sacking his record was -

P16 W10 D2 L4 Pts 32

Over the same number of games McPake has 

P16 W7 D4 L5 Pts 25

 

Seeing as Bomber's record was considered unacceptable by FPS then James McPake is a very lucky man, especially when you factor in the budget McPake has compared to Bomber. It would be interesting to hear why Nelms thinks these tumbling standards are now acceptable, yet Bomber's record was sackable.

This is make or break time for McPake now, hopefully we'll see a run of form that takes us to 2nd place. 

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Bomber's sacking just didn't make sense to me🤨 wondered if there was more going on in the background than we knew about.

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Bomber was hated by a section of the support from day one so there were rumblings from the stands at the first sign of things going wrong.

At the start of February we had a miserable 1-0 home defeat to Livi and followed that up with a horrible 2-0 defeat at Falkirk (when Stephen Hughes made his notoriously dreadful debut). It seemed like we'd turned the corner at home to Alloa but then we conceded an equaliser with the last kick of the ball and both Bomber and the support were happy to part ways.

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5 minutes ago, Mr Sensible said:

I liked Bomber, but didn’t he resign?

 It was the classic 'mutual agreement'.

The fans certainly gave him a hard time after the game because we hadn't won in 3 games. That seems almost brutal now considering the level standards have been allowed to drop to. 

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8 minutes ago, Mr Sensible said:

I liked Bomber, but didn’t he resign?

Yes he quit. We held talks to try and get him to change his mind but he'd had enough after the crushing disappointment of conceding deep in injury time at home to Alloa.

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2 minutes ago, Alexis said:

 It was the classic 'mutual agreement'.

The fans certainly gave him a hard time after the game because we hadn't won in 3 games. That seems almost brutal now considering the level standards have been allowed to drop to. 

Correct.

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45 minutes ago, Alexis said:

Thought this might be an interesting time to make a comparison of our last season in this division with John Brown as manager versus this season with McPake given that Brown was sacked after a home draw with Alloa, in which they undeservedly equalised in the 94th minute. 

 

When John Brown was sacked-

P22  W12  D4  L6  Pts 40  GD +16

Position - Joint top with Falkirk. 

 

Currently McPake -

P25  W10  D7  L8  Pts 37  GD -1 

Position 4th.

 

So Bomber left us in a great position and with more points despite less games played than McPake, and he wasn't exactly in a terrible run of form either, in the lead up to his sacking his record was -

P16 W10 D2 L4 Pts 32

Over the same number of games McPake has 

P16 W7 D4 L5 Pts 25

 

Seeing as Bomber's record was considered unacceptable by FPS then James McPake is a very lucky man, especially when you factor in the budget McPake has compared to Bomber. It would be interesting to hear why Nelms thinks these tumbling standards are now acceptable, yet Bomber's record was sackable.

This is make or break time for McPake now, hopefully we'll see a run of form that takes us to 2nd place. 

Standards and expectations were a bit higher then with the owners and fanbase despite struggling for the previous 8 seasons.  The hopes and expectations never slipped.

Now, we lap up any old dross and make excuses for it until the cows come home.

Battling relegation two seasons in a row despite the 6th highest budget in the league.

Being relegated on the third season with the worst top flight season in the clubs entire history with a similar budget.

Stuttering from 3rd to 6th all season in the second tier with the second highest budget in the league.

It's all become excused and acceptable to too many as the ambitions are lowered and lowered season on season.

We're now walking away from 0-0s with Alloa at home feeling good because the performance was there despite slipping further behind Inverness.

Maybe one day this club will deliver again for the first time in 5 years instead of worsening season on season. 

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Looking at the record of each above, it maybe does come down to expectations and the personality of each individual.

Although I've never spoke to, or met either, I would expect JMP to be more biddable to his players & upper management.

All supposition of course;  But If one of therm were a "Yes Man" to JN, I don't think Oor John Broon wid be the Mannie :explode:

That's not to say that James McPake's simply going along with the flow. Hope DFC/JN are  focusing on the Big Prize:chaplin:

And not reached the stage as a City Club, of being more accepting 2nd/3rd/4th best in Division, below the Premiership :(

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4 minutes ago, Cobra said:

Bomber was hated by a section of the support from day one so there were rumblings from the stands at the first sign of things going wrong.

At the start of February we had a miserable 1-0 home defeat to Livi and followed that up with a horrible 2-0 defeat at Falkirk (when Stephen Hughes made his notoriously dreadful debut). It seemed like we'd turned the corner at home to Alloa but then we conceded an equaliser with the last kick of the ball and both Bomber and the support were happy to part ways.

Amazing that fans were happy to let go a manager that was top of the league.

But now some are happy with the manager if we finish 5th/6th...

We are a strange bunch.

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2 minutes ago, Cobra said:

Yes he quit. We held talks to try and get him to change his mind but he'd had enough after the crushing disappointment of conceding deep in injury time at home to Alloa.

Scot Gardiner tried to keep Bomber, it was clear that FPS were already courting Hartley. 

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Bomber is one of the most fortunate managers we've ever had in the clubs history IMO. He offered a deal to a transfer listed goalkeeper, in his 30s, from Kilwinning Rangers and thought a forward from Pollock would come into the second tier and score goals. The Stephen Hughes debacle as well was embarrassing. He had a few good players at the club already and signed a few guys through the one contact who ended up being really good characters.

I really don't see any way we were getting up with him, very harsh given some of the results he got but there's a reason why he hasn't been going into other management jobs since his departure here. The good thing is I think he knows that himself and knew himself the change was necessary.

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