The Plane Crash

[DeeMo]

The prosecutor has come out with some unbelievable news that the co pilot deliberately brought the plane down. He wouldn't let the pilot back in the cockpit.

Suicide,terrorism or mental problems?

[JoeCovenant]

I've thought right from the start that this was a suicide.

The plane went down too slowly to be anything else.

The question is, that cockpits have emergency overrides to allow locked out people in.

So why couldn't the other pilot get back in?

Awful... just awful...

[DeeMo]

I've thought right from the start that this was a suicide.

The plane went down too slowly to be anything else.

The question is, that cockpits have emergency overrides to allow locked out people in.

So why couldn't the other pilot get back in?

Awful... just awful...

I believe it is possible to override the keypad entry into the cockpit from the pilot who is actually in it. Sadly it looks like the co pilot has used this facility to keep the pilot out of the cockpit

[Cobra]

Captain goes for a p*ss and comes back to find the door locked, the plane descending and the co-pilot ignoring him. That must have been a horrific eight minutes.

It said on the news that because this plane was 24 years old it didn't have any overrides and the door was reinforced after 9/11 so there was no way to get in.

[DeeMo]

Just heard on the radio a pilot saying that it is possible for whoever is in the cockpit to override any system for someone to enter it from outside

Surely there should always be two people in the cockpit at all times to stop things like this happening

[JoeCovenant]

Captain goes for a p*ss and comes back to find the door locked, the plane descending and the co-pilot ignoring him. That must have been a horrific eight minutes.

It said on the news that because this plane was 24 years old it didn't have any overrides and the door was reinforced after 9/11 so there was no way to get in.

Hmmm... that's changed from the first reports this morning...

That said, it's all a bit in flux at the moment...

[JoeCovenant]

Just heard on the radio a pilot saying that it is possible for whoever is in the cockpit to override any system for someone to enter it from outside

Surely there should always be two people in the cockpit at all times to stop things like this happening

That is supposed to be the protocol ever since the attack on the WTC.

[Gnasher]

If it was suicide, what an inconsiderate b@stard taking another 150 people with him   

[JoeCovenant]

If it was suicide, what an inconsiderate b@stard taking another 150 people with him   

Yep...

Sadly, not the first time this has been known to happen. 

[DeeMo]

Yep...

Sadly, not the first time this has been known to happen. 

The pilot on the radio flys for an American airline and it is protocol for them. If there is only 2 pilots on the flight if 1 wants the toilet a crew member has to sit in the cockpit with the remaining pilot. She didn't know if it was protocol on the German airline

[markthedee]

The pilot on the radio flys for an American airline and it is protocol for them. If there is only 2 pilots on the flight if 1 wants the toilet a crew member has to sit in the cockpit with the remaining pilot. She didn't know if it was protocol on the German airline

But then what's a member of the cabin crew going to do if the remaining pilot sets the plane on a crash trajectory?

An ultimate override to gain access from outside must surely be possible? What's the difference between that and the pilot in the cockpit needing to press a button to refuse access? The threat from a terrorist wanting in would essentially be the same - the pilot allows access or the person outside uses the override, or people die.

[JoeCovenant]

The override is a VERY carefully kept secret apparently- known *only* to the pilots.

(This is all new to me BTW... just heard on BBC this a.m.)