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Yet again we're facing a summer of uncertainty and the message hammered home to us that this club just doesn't ever make things easy.

Over the last year and a bit we've had McPake sacked then being replaced by an absolute dinosaur, his departure after our relegation, a summer of managerial uncertainty and protracted negotiations for various candidates, ground sharing rumours, a season ticket debacle, with increased prices before actual confirmation of division, 20 players, including some promising young stars and our POTY, all out of contract, our manager rumoured to be on his way as early as the middle of this week and an unpopular choice already installed as the favourite for his job.

We're pretty much a damaged support already given the nature of our recent existence without all of this. Most of us have seen more downs than up's. IF we're to replace GB with AN other then we absolutely need to get this right. We, the support, won't let any potential new man in straight off the bat given the traumas of our past. Nelms, Strachan etc need to start looking after the fans because this F'kn rollercoaster needs to stop. We've only just recovered from a fantastic weekend and here we are brought back down to earth with a massive bump.

Rumours are inevitable in this business I concede. To allow so many things to come together at the same time though is unfortunate at the very best but probably pretty foolish if we're being honest. Do we really need to rip it up and to start again every summer and do the support have the appetite for it?. There will be plenty who will follow regardless because the emotional attachment is so great but there will be others who choose to throw in the towel because they've taken one punch too many. You can only patch things up for so long and it's only a matter of time before some finally break.

Oh for a period of normality!.😩

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18 minutes ago, Reverend Lovejoy said:

Yet again we're facing a summer of uncertainty and the message hammered home to us that this club just doesn't ever make things easy.

Over the last year and a bit we've had McPake sacked then being replaced by an absolute dinosaur, his departure after our relegation, a summer of managerial uncertainty and protracted negotiations for various candidates, ground sharing rumours, a season ticket debacle, with increased prices before actual confirmation of division, 20 players, including some promising young stars and our POTY, all out of contract, our manager rumoured to be on his way as early as the middle of this week and an unpopular choice already installed as the favourite for his job.

We're pretty much a damaged support already given the nature of our recent existence without all of this. Most of us have seen more downs than up's. IF we're to replace GB with AN other then we absolutely need to get this right. We, the support, won't let any potential new man in straight off the bat given the traumas of our past. Nelms, Strachan etc need to start looking after the fans because this F'kn rollercoaster needs to stop. We've only just recovered from a fantastic weekend and here we are brought back down to earth with a massive bump.

Rumours are inevitable in this business I concede. To allow so many things to come together at the same time though is unfortunate at the very best but probably pretty foolish if we're being honest. Do we really need to rip it up and to start again every summer and do the support have the appetite for it?. There will be plenty who will follow regardless because the emotional attachment is so great but there will be others who choose to throw in the towel because they've taken one punch too many. You can only patch things up for so long and it's only a matter of time before some finally break.

Oh for a period of normality!.😩

Most other clubs are the same 

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1 hour ago, Reverend Lovejoy said:

Yet again we're facing a summer of uncertainty and the message hammered home to us that this club just doesn't ever make things easy.

Over the last year and a bit we've had McPake sacked then being replaced by an absolute dinosaur, his departure after our relegation, a summer of managerial uncertainty and protracted negotiations for various candidates, ground sharing rumours, a season ticket debacle, with increased prices before actual confirmation of division, 20 players, including some promising young stars and our POTY, all out of contract, our manager rumoured to be on his way as early as the middle of this week and an unpopular choice already installed as the favourite for his job.

We're pretty much a damaged support already given the nature of our recent existence without all of this. Most of us have seen more downs than up's. IF we're to replace GB with AN other then we absolutely need to get this right. We, the support, won't let any potential new man in straight off the bat given the traumas of our past. Nelms, Strachan etc need to start looking after the fans because this F'kn rollercoaster needs to stop. We've only just recovered from a fantastic weekend and here we are brought back down to earth with a massive bump.

Rumours are inevitable in this business I concede. To allow so many things to come together at the same time though is unfortunate at the very best but probably pretty foolish if we're being honest. Do we really need to rip it up and to start again every summer and do the support have the appetite for it?. There will be plenty who will follow regardless because the emotional attachment is so great but there will be others who choose to throw in the towel because they've taken one punch too many. You can only patch things up for so long and it's only a matter of time before some finally break.

Oh for a period of normality!.😩

John Nelms in the Scotsman  seems to be taking credit for this risky strategy.  Was he doing this in some kind of expectation that Bowyer would leave?    

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1 hour ago, Barfly said:

Eh, precisely what has happened since Friday night to deflate folk, apart from rumours and wild speculation? 

It's the continuation of things, we never seem to go too long without one controversy or another.

Speculation?, at this stage without a doubt yes. There's often no smoke without fire at this club though and the cryptic comments and body language only add to the feeling of uncertainty. 

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If GB goes he goes, that was always the risk of him winning the league, and clubs down south taking an interest, he lives 300 miles away from his family, I totally get on why he wants to get back down the road.

The irony is, if we had lost on Friday, most on here wouldn’t give two hoots if he left.

As for the players, again I don’t think he’s as popular with the players as is perceived.

Could turn out to be a blessing in disguise, last thing we need next season is a homesick manager.

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3 minutes ago, Reverend Lovejoy said:

It's the continuation of things, we never seem to go too long without one controversy or another.

Speculation?, at this stage without a doubt yes. There's often no smoke without first at this club though and the cryptic comments and body language only add to the feeling of uncertainty. 

We start the season as a Premiership club, regardless of who the manager is. I think it was always unrealistic to expect GB to have a long tenure at Dens given his domestic situation. Nelms and Keys have been cautious with our finances, imagine how we would be reacting if we found out the reverse was true. It’s time to enjoy our promotion and hope that we can recruit and retain the players we need for next season.

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18 minutes ago, Reverend Lovejoy said:

It's the continuation of things, we never seem to go too long without one controversy or another.

Speculation?, at this stage without a doubt yes. There's often no smoke without first at this club though and the cryptic comments and body language only add to the feeling of uncertainty. 

Yeah, I get the historical context bit regarding endless controversy, but until the next one shows up, there isn't one. That's not to say there won't be one shortly, but who really knows?

It's not something we can control and I'm not understanding why folk are allowing their mood to drop, collapse, based on conjecture.

And if, for example, Gary Bowyer does choose to cut ties with the club to be closer to his family, then we respect his choice, thank him for his work, wish him well, and move on. That's life.

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