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23 minutes ago, troodee1893 said:

With all the positivity around it is easy to get swept away and I suppose swept away I am. I love the way things are going on the park and despite the ifs, buts and maybes we are in a good place and about right for our play this season so far.

It is quite amazing how far we have come in a couple of years and in comparison to our closest neighbours. If you go back to the end of season 21/22; bottom of the league, relegated with only 29 points, a total we have already exceeded this season, made worse by them getting fourth and qualifying for Europe.  McPake and McGhee in charge!! The year to the end of the next season was strange and ultimately successful but stressful and difficult at times. Utd looked on the up with hope for a good domestic season and maybe a wee run in Europe, their fans were ecstatic organising celebratory matches to the ground (albeit only the length of Sth and Nth Isla streets), flag and paper waving 'spectaculars' and we all know how that all ended up. Very pleasing, of course. The majority of our support thought that the play offs were our best route up due to indifferent form through most of the early and middle parts of the season and even that was in doubt this time last year but QP imploding and our better form/results towards the end of the season culminating in the mayhem of the final game got us over the line.

So we found ourselves automatically promoted, many wondering just how that had indeed happened. The forums and chat was all about survival, 10th would be a result an excellent achievement even. So to this season, they will likely get promoted from a poor Championship (last season was also a poor Championship imo to put it into perspective) but will have a major rebuild with difficult finances so again imo we will have nothing to fear from their promotion. Us on the other hand have undoubtedly over achieved so far. The majority of the signings have been good and despite seriously wondering about the change in manager before the start of the season I have to say it has worked out big time. We have done something that we have always found difficult in the past i.e. performed well and achieved results against the teams in the lower parts of the league. We have yet to break through with consistent better and winning performances against the 'better' teams but some results have come and hopefully we can push on in this regard

So where do we end the season? Fifth and in Europe (so long as Hibs or Aberdeen, if below us, don't win the cup; wouldn't that be a Dundee sort of outcome). Top six or comfortable top end of the bottom six. All would be an achievement but it shows how far we have come that the latter of those outcomes would be regarded as a disappointment to many maybe most of our supporters. 

Times are good to be a Dee. Enjoy them. Onwards and upwards!

Outside of the OF we have demonstrated that we can go toe to toe, we need to be a bit more street wise, however a good measure for myself is how we have performed against Hearts, whilst we have lost our last 2 games against them, we have ran them as close as they would have wanted us to be, on a different day, being a little smarter those 2 defeats could have been an extra 6 points on the board. Against the side who are sitting comfortably 3rd in the league our aspirations should be top six. 

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1 hour ago, troodee1893 said:

With all the positivity around it is easy to get swept away and I suppose swept away I am. I love the way things are going on the park and despite the ifs, buts and maybes we are in a good place and about right for our play this season so far.

It is quite amazing how far we have come in a couple of years and in comparison to our closest neighbours. If you go back to the end of season 21/22; bottom of the league, relegated with only 29 points, a total we have already exceeded this season, made worse by them getting fourth and qualifying for Europe.  McPake and McGhee in charge!! The year to the end of the next season was strange and ultimately successful but stressful and difficult at times. Utd looked on the up with hope for a good domestic season and maybe a wee run in Europe, their fans were ecstatic organising celebratory matches to the ground (albeit only the length of Sth and Nth Isla streets), flag and paper waving 'spectaculars' and we all know how that all ended up. Very pleasing, of course. The majority of our support thought that the play offs were our best route up due to indifferent form through most of the early and middle parts of the season and even that was in doubt this time last year but QP imploding and our better form/results towards the end of the season culminating in the mayhem of the final game got us over the line.

So we found ourselves automatically promoted, many wondering just how that had indeed happened. The forums and chat was all about survival, 10th would be a result an excellent achievement even. So to this season, they will likely get promoted from a poor Championship (last season was also a poor Championship imo to put it into perspective) but will have a major rebuild with difficult finances so again imo we will have nothing to fear from their promotion. Us on the other hand have undoubtedly over achieved so far. The majority of the signings have been good and despite seriously wondering about the change in manager before the start of the season I have to say it has worked out big time. We have done something that we have always found difficult in the past i.e. performed well and achieved results against the teams in the lower parts of the league. We have yet to break through with consistent better and winning performances against the 'better' teams but some results have come and hopefully we can push on in this regard

So where do we end the season? Fifth and in Europe (so long as Hibs or Aberdeen, if below us, don't win the cup; wouldn't that be a Dundee sort of outcome). Top six or comfortable top end of the bottom six. All would be an achievement but it shows how far we have come that the latter of those outcomes would be regarded as a disappointment to many maybe most of our supporters. 

Times are good to be a Dee. Enjoy them. Onwards and upwards!

I'm really hoping for the perfect storm of a top 6 finish and a DAB implosion culminating in another season (at least) in the Championship. We failed, as a club, to realise the enormity of the Doon Derby and whilst we spent a summer changing profile pictures to CW33 (and having it tattooed on his ar*e in one boy's case) the DAB's were licking their wounds and quietly rebuilding. The march we should've stolen on them turned out to be more of a shuffle and the opportunity was lost. Yesterday showed that we're the real deal under the Doc with a comprehensive win against previously difficult opponents but we could still only muster something shy of 6k even with Adult season ticket holders having the opportunity to bring a friend for free. IF we exceed expectations (say 5th for arguments sake) a chunk of our prize money should be invested in a proper marketing campaign aimed at boosting our numbers and to really grab our status as the cities top club by the scruff of the neck. We've only got ourselves to blame, given the current feel good factor, if we give them another lifeline. We need to kick them while they're down and keep on kicking because they'll not think twice about doing the same to us given the opportunity.

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39 minutes ago, Reverend Lovejoy said:

I'm really hoping for the perfect storm of a top 6 finish and a DAB implosion culminating in another season (at least) in the Championship. We failed, as a club, to realise the enormity of the Doon Derby and whilst we spent a summer changing profile pictures to CW33 (and having it tattooed on his ar*e in one boy's case) the DAB's were licking their wounds and quietly rebuilding. The march we should've stolen on them turned out to be more of a shuffle and the opportunity was lost. Yesterday showed that we're the real deal under the Doc with a comprehensive win against previously difficult opponents but we could still only muster something shy of 6k even with Adult season ticket having the opportunity to bring a friend for free. IF we exceed expectations (say 5th for arguments sake) a chunk of our prize money should be invested in a proper marketing campaign aimed at boosting our numbers and to really grab our status as the cities top club by the scruff of the neck. We've only got ourselves to blame, given the current feel good factor, if we give them another lifeline. We need to kick them while they're down and keep on kicking because that'll not think twice about doing the same to us given the opportunity.

Absolutely spot on mate! We can't let the opportunity to build the club up slip this time. 

We have a a great manager who has built a brilliant team who are good to watch and have a tremendous team spirit and fight for each other. 

We seem to finally be a lot more professional off the pitch and our recruitment is testament to that. 

We are planning to build a modern stadium which will help the club jump to the next level which has our neighbours absolutely boiling. 

If we could add a thousand to our core support before moving to Nou campy that would be some achievement and worth aiming for. 

The new stadium will definitely be more attractive to neutrals and younger fans and will open up a lot of marketing opportunities for us. 

Never been so positive being a dee, its a a strange feeling but long may it continue. 

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I really hope the arabs don't get promoted, Orgen gets bored and tries to sell up, there is a lack of investment and their team gets even worse than it is now. But we really must kick them whilst they are down and build our support. It won't happen overnight as yesterday's disappointing crowd shows. Many of our fans have gone to the High Stand and we need to capture the young support in the city. This is where a creative marketing campaign and connections (e.g. player visits) in the schools could help.

The arabs still think they are a big team and continue to call us the fun (oh the irony). I saw a group of their fans on Friday night waiting for their supporters bus on Princes Street dressed up as if they were going to a cup final. I hope they enjoyed their journey home.

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Nothing but positivity from our club just now the key to future success would be a long settled period given our recent history to turn the Arab tide will happen with the right decisions being made by our good owners there is more Dee fans that don't go to the game than do I don't know about other parts of dundee but in lochee that's the case feed up with deing let down being the excuse used 

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9 hours ago, Double Blue said:

I really hope the arabs don't get promoted, Orgen gets bored and tries to sell up, there is a lack of investment and their team gets even worse than it is now. But we really must kick them whilst they are down and build our support. It won't happen overnight as yesterday's disappointing crowd shows. Many of our fans have gone to the High Stand and we need to capture the young support in the city. This is where a creative marketing campaign and connections (e.g. player visits) in the schools could help.

The arabs still think they are a big team and continue to call us the fun (oh the irony). I saw a group of their fans on Friday night waiting for their supporters bus on Princes Street dressed up as if they were going to a cup final. I hope they enjoyed their journey home.

Tbh I've never 'got' this dressing up carry on. For me a Dundee scarf, wooly hat in the winter and that's that. Too old now, for me anyway, with the wearing of strips. The tangy biler suit, shades, sombreros etc. etc. makes them look like a right bunch of tubes at a cup final and even worse at a mid season game in Kirkcaldy

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23 hours ago, Double Blue said:

I really hope the arabs don't get promoted, Orgen gets bored and tries to sell up, there is a lack of investment and their team gets even worse than it is now. But we really must kick them whilst they are down and build our support. It won't happen overnight as yesterday's disappointing crowd shows. Many of our fans have gone to the High Stand and we need to capture the young support in the city. This is where a creative marketing campaign and connections (e.g. player visits) in the schools could help.

The arabs still think they are a big team and continue to call us the fun (oh the irony). I saw a group of their fans on Friday night waiting for their supporters bus on Princes Street dressed up as if they were going to a cup final. I hope they enjoyed their journey home.

Rowan Atkinson GIF

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