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[BCram]

It does seem as though the ball is still in our court. Maybe we are struggling to answer the questions being asked by Transport Scotland?

[Gedee]

12 hours ago, BCram said:

Seems odd to think back when topics were posted just for fun. I think we might get complaints for taking a thread off topic. Maybe we should start a nostalgia thread? As far a Campy goes, it seems very unlikely that T S are going to accept the solutions being put forward on behalf of the club. Also been telt, that my thought that there could be a financial exit from Campy by dropping the stadium and selling the site is very very very unlikely.

Hoping fixing Dens will be plan B. Wonder how the Marr's managed to get the two stands built. Surely putting up a new SE with decent new hospo wouldn't be beyond our current owners? Then upgrade the Main Stand. 

 

Hi again BC...Thank you for you response ...I would like to respond on you comment, which I've highlighted above)

I am well aware of the problems of going "Off-Topic" but I think this is relevant and I'll try to be as brief as possible.

Part of my reasoning for starting "Great Pictures of Scotland" And Other Stuff. (under general chat forum heading) 

was in the main (Firstly Promote Bonnie Scotland ) but also to encourage more posters to post  WELL ANYTHING

This was why  I added to Initial Heading "any ither stuff" to allow any & all posters to add anything, however trivial.

My main reasoning behind this was to prevent, if pos. off topic posts, & give space to even daft posts/comments.

Has it worked and been successful? In all honesty, I think not. But as another wee reminder it's there for everyone.

I do not think it's in my style to over-criticise any poster & I certainly would never do so under that Particular Topic.

We've got on the DBF a fine varied range of posters. But there's plenty room for more, whatever age, style & ability.

And although some of the past posters may never be missed. Without mentioning names, I'd like to see you back.

Okay My Good Friends, think this diversion is now over...Let's get back on Topic

"STADIUM LATEST" Have eh missed anything?    Is JN up there wi his Shovel?

 

[HK Blues]

2 hours ago, BCram said:

It does seem as though the ball is still in our court. Maybe we are struggling to answer the questions being asked by Transport Scotland?

It seems it's most definitely in our court as we cannot progress without the PIP and we seem to be at an impasse on that. 

Given the investment, potential jobs and general uplift a new development would give the city, it's hard to understand why we're at an impasse unless the cost of the required changes is prohibitive in which case the ba's on the slates.

The unknown is how would FPS react to that - can they afford to wash their hands and write off what they've invested in both us and the project thus far, or would they see a chance to cut their losses and move on?  Dunno.

[BCram]

6 hours ago, HK Blues said:

It seems it's most definitely in our court as we cannot progress without the PIP and we seem to be at an impasse on that. 

Given the investment, potential jobs and general uplift a new development would give the city, it's hard to understand why we're at an impasse unless the cost of the required changes is prohibitive in which case the ba's on the slates.

The unknown is how would FPS react to that - can they afford to wash their hands and write off what they've invested in both us and the project thus far, or would they see a chance to cut their losses and move on?  Dunno.

Maybe as you say it's the cost of fixing the transport issues that is the stumbling block, not finding solutions to them

 

[Craigowl]

45 minutes ago, BCram said:

Maybe as you say it's the cost of fixing the transport issues that is the stumbling block, not finding solutions to them

 

I can't make up my mind  whether to laugh or cry at the idea of John Nelms acting with good faith in any situation! 

[Dondeh]

7 hours ago, HK Blues said:

The unknown is how would FPS react to that - can they afford to wash their hands and write off what they've invested in both us and the project thus far, or would they see a chance to cut their losses and move on?  Dunno.

My view fwiw and for sometime has been, they will. 

[BCram]

50 minutes ago, Craigowl said:

I can't make up my mind  whether to laugh or cry at the idea of John Nelms acting with good faith in any situation! 

It isn't up to him surely? Tim Keyes must be setting some guidelines. Maybe that's the problem, the financial parameters that John Nelms has been set, or those that he has accepted, are too tightly drawn.

Maybe the funding needs reviewed. As many on here gave said, what's not to like about a football stadium that can attract potential crowds to a retail area.

[Craigowl]

4 minutes ago, BCram said:

It isn't up to him surely? Tim Keyes must be setting some guidelines. Maybe that's the problem, the financial parameters that John Nelms has been set, or those that he has accepted, are too tightly drawn.

Maybe the funding needs reviewed. As many on here gave said, what's not to like about a football stadium that can attract potential crowds to a retail area.

Or he's spinning Tim Keyes along too? 
He's done very well from a spade going  in the ground next summer, every summer for years 

[BCram]

6 minutes ago, Craigowl said:

Or he's spinning Tim Keyes along too? 
He's done very well from a spade going  in the ground next summer, every summer for years 

Don't believe that for a minute. Being responsible for DFC must be a nightmare when it looks as though you are a one man band. If Tim Keyes is setting all the rules why is John Nelms getting all the grief?

I know this is an odd line of thought. But.....

[Bobby123]

I think the ball is in our court and if the solution was straightforward it would have been agreed by now.

Clearly there are differing opinions between TS and our consultants.

If TS dig in their heels and not accept anything less than their design manual states I guess we are snookered- does not seem to be any compromise on their side.

It may be appealed to the Scottish Government suggesting the overall benefit to the city justifies a less than optimum solution- but they may side with TS too.

In which case - ???????

[Daniel Watson]

1 hour ago, BCram said:

Don't believe that for a minute. Being responsible for DFC must be a nightmare when it looks as though you are a one man band. If Tim Keyes is setting all the rules why is John Nelms getting all the grief?

I know this is an odd line of thought. But.....

Some of this stuff on here from guys who probably know nothing about Keys and Nelms seems right over the top. The Council and TS can’t keep running away from making a decision about the stadium,  they know that they are under scrutiny and hopefully we get the right decision before long.

[BCram]

4 minutes ago, Bobby123 said:

I think the ball is in our court and if the solution was straightforward it would have been agreed by now.

Clearly there are differing opinions between TS and our consultants.

If TS dig in their heels and not accept anything less than their design manual states I guess we are snookered- does not seem to be any compromise on their side.

It may be appealed to the Scottish Government suggesting the overall benefit to the city justifies a less than optimum solution- but they may side with TS too.

In which case - ???????

Agree. This looks like where we are.