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Anybody notice the difference between these comments -

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/33964249

And the one made by Alex McLeish about our players when he was at Hibs.

One gets the Scotland manager's job, the other gets cited by the compliance officer.

What did asked say. I can't remember.

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What did asked say. I can't remember.

BBC report.

McLeish was working the referee. He was talking about Dundee's players diving, then sent his team out to kick the Dee off the park. Mattias Jack of Hibs was the foreign player who was guilty of simulation to get Cab sent off after he had wiped out Cab from behind.

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Times have changed enormously tho.

You can't and incident today to tens of years ago if it was more socially acceptable at the time...

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Times have changed enormously tho.

You can't and incident today to tens of years ago if it was more socially acceptable at the time...

It most certainly wasn't acceptable at the time, but the SFA did nothing despite Ivano expressing concern about a racist culture. Willie Young spoke a dinner a few years ago and said he deliberately gave decisions against us just to infuriate Bonetti. He was roundly booed and it was a major faux pas. The hierarchy simply didn't like the Bonettis. Tom Brown sent off SIX Dundee players that season including 2 in the Hibs game where McLeish encouraged him to do so.

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BBC report.

McLeish was working the referee. He was talking about Dundee's players diving, then sent his team out to kick the Dee off the park. Mattias Jack of Hibs was the foreign player who was guilty of simulation to get Cab sent off after he had wiped out Cab from behind.

One of two absolutely disgusting challenges on Caballero that season. We all know the other one.

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The Hearts boy did strike me as a bit of a diver and play actor at Dens last week to be honest.

Absolutely nothing to do with him being foreign though.

See Peter Pawlett or GMS if in doubt, 2 examples of many.

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It most certainly wasn't acceptable at the time, but the SFA did nothing despite Ivano expressing concern about a racist culture. Willie Young spoke a dinner a few years ago and said he deliberately gave decisions against us just to infuriate Bonetti. He was roundly booed and it was a major faux pas. The hierarchy simply didn't like the Bonettis. Tom Brown sent off SIX Dundee players that season including 2 in the Hibs game where McLeish encouraged him to do so.

Tom Brown sent off Khizanishvilli at Parkhead after Larsson had fouled him. He pulled Zura down (and he was out for about six months) and ran on to shoot wide. Brown then sent off the injured Zura, apparently on the grounds that he'd tried, but failed, to foul Larsson. The red card offence would presumably have been "denying a clear goal scoring opportunity", but since Larsson ran clear anyway though that couldn't have applied. I remember the TV pundits being bemused. They didn't know why Zura was sent off. It was one of the worst decisions I've ever seen because it really did look like a referee just making up the rules to suit himself. I remember emailing the SFA, not complaining, but just asking what Zura's offence was. I didn't get a reply.

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It most certainly wasn't acceptable at the time,

To an extent it almost was. I'm not saying it was right, but people were quicker to say things back then a bit less PC than now.

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A blight on the game.

Nationality doesn't come into it...

They need stamped on hard. (No pun intended!)  :)

Surely we're not the only team in the country that despises when our players do anything like it?

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It most certainly wasn't acceptable at the time, but the SFA did nothing despite Ivano expressing concern about a racist culture. Willie Young spoke a dinner a few years ago and said he deliberately gave decisions against us just to infuriate Bonetti. He was roundly booed and it was a major faux pas. The hierarchy simply didn't like the Bonettis. Tom Brown sent off SIX Dundee players that season including 2 in the Hibs game where McLeish encouraged him to do so.

Was 2003 UEFA set up Unite Against Racism and provided funding at national level to combat it. SFA won't spend it's own wonga on things unless forced to.

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Tom Brown sent off Khizanishvilli at Parkhead after Larsson had fouled him. He pulled Zura down (and he was out for about six months) and ran on to shoot wide. Brown then sent off the injured Zura, apparently on the grounds that he'd tried, but failed, to foul Larsson. The red card offence would presumably have been "denying a clear goal scoring opportunity", but since Larsson ran clear anyway though that couldn't have applied. I remember the TV pundits being bemused. They didn't know why Zura was sent off. It was one of the worst decisions I've ever seen because it really did look like a referee just making up the rules to suit himself. I remember emailing the SFA, not complaining, but just asking what Zura's offence was. I didn't get a reply.

I remember that well. Incredibly we won 2 nil. That decision from Brown was one that convinced me it wasn't just referee error we'd been seeing from him all season. Bonetti smashed his phone against the dugout he was so frustrated. Brown was also in charge of the League Cup game away to St. Mirren a few games after his Hibs performance. He sent 2 more of our players off and booked 8, almost all of them in the first half if I remember right.

Still shocking now looking back. Don't think anyone can say it wasn't bias.

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Tom Brown sent off Khizanishvilli at Parkhead after Larsson had fouled him. He pulled Zura down (and he was out for about six months) and ran on to shoot wide. Brown then sent off the injured Zura, apparently on the grounds that he'd tried, but failed, to foul Larsson. The red card offence would presumably have been "denying a clear goal scoring opportunity", but since Larsson ran clear anyway though that couldn't have applied. I remember the TV pundits being bemused. They didn't know why Zura was sent off. It was one of the worst decisions I've ever seen because it really did look like a referee just making up the rules to suit himself. I remember emailing the SFA, not complaining, but just asking what Zura's offence was. I didn't get a reply.

Think you're mixing up your games Rumps.

Zurab got injured the season after when Larson fouled him. That was wide on the touch line though in the game when the lights went out for 15 mins. No red card given.

The sending off came in the game we won 2-0 but zura walked off after that. Thought it was Rowbottom who sent him off too but I'm willing to stand corrected. Absolutely farcical decision to call it back after he had played advantage and the striker had missed the target.

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Think you're mixing up your games Rumps.

Zurab got injured the season after when Larson fouled him. That was wide on the touch line though in the game when the lights went out for 15 mins. No red card given.

The sending off came in the game we won 2-0 but zura walked off after that. Thought it was Rowbottom who sent him off too but I'm willing to stand corrected. Absolutely farcical decision to call it back after he had played advantage and the striker had missed the target.

You're right. It was the following season he picked up the serious injury, but he was hurt in the incident when Larsson pulled him down with the result that the victim was red carded. Tom Brown was the referee. See the link in my post above for the BBC report.

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