Rorros Posted 29 August 2015 Report Share Posted 29 August 2015 (edited) I agree regarding the ticket prices, home form and cup exit. However we spent so long in the 1st/Championship and everyone craved for top flight football. The euphoria of the Dumbarton game seemed to exorcise those demons and last season was a more than steady return to the top flight. What were people expecting? Amazing football, played by superb players? Silky passing football and big name signings? Had nobody seen SPFL football before? I mean teams like Motherwell, ICT and StJ have been the best the league could offer outside Sellick and none of them played even half decent stuff. We finished top six last season and are currently sitting top half of the league again and all anyone can do (myself included, truth be told) is complain. Nae pleasing us, is there? Kinda agree with that. 4-0 v killie mibbe made a rod for ph back. Where do you go after "the perfect performance". I,ll go no matter how crap they are or were but other folk its aboot winning and entertaining at home. The season tic price had apparently no input fae reps and its biting us now. I didnae think we overachieved last season I thought we would finish 6th and we are probably underachieving this season giving cup result. As you say much better than the last de ade or so but that's gone its the here and now and 3/18 isnae that exciting. Edited 29 August 2015 by Rorros 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Man at the Back Posted 29 August 2015 Report Share Posted 29 August 2015 I would say I am one of these gone missing fans this season. Myself and my dad have had season tickets for the past 5 seasons and due to number of reasons missed the early bird price we would have been the full price for the year and decided just to pay at the gate. We were at the hearts game but will mainly pick and choose what games to attend and today wasn't a game that will pull in many patg fans and I'm sure there are others in this position. I will say was surprised the club didn't get in touch with last years season ticket holders to find out why they didn't renew, maybe something we should be doing and figure out ways to get these fans back? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barkblue Posted 29 August 2015 Report Share Posted 29 August 2015 Kinda agree with that. 4-0 v killie mibbe made a rod for ph back. Where do you go after "the perfect performance". I,ll go no matter how crap they are or were but other folk its aboot winning and entertaining at home. The season tic price had apparently no input fae reps and its biting us now. I didnae think we overachieved last season I thought we would finish 6th and we are probably underachieving this season giving cup result. As you say much better than the last de ade or so but that's gone its the here and now and 3/18 isnae that exciting. I didn't say we over achieved Rorros, was just stating that's where we finished. My point is, I can't quite work out what folk really expect. Today wasn't great and I'm far from pretending it was. However we've just had our highest finish in how many years and all we can do is say, well it isn't entertaining enough. The style of football is all wrong (I'm as guilty as anyone for that), or the squad is all wrong. Teams aren't going to turn up at Dens and say, you guys play nice fitba, we'll stand and watch. I'm at a stage where I think the folk like you and me (and most of this board, to be fair), who will go rain or shine, shyte or braw, will go and those who don't will maybe turn up if it's Hearts, the scum or Sellick - and if it's a nice day, the price is right and they dinnae have to queue, or the food is good. And only then if we win six nil, score two from free kicks and two from thirty yards. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barkblue Posted 29 August 2015 Report Share Posted 29 August 2015 I would say I am one of these gone missing fans this season. Myself and my dad have had season tickets for the past 5 seasons and due to number of reasons missed the early bird price we would have been the full price for the year and decided just to pay at the gate. We were at the hearts game but will mainly pick and choose what games to attend and today wasn't a game that will pull in many patg fans and I'm sure there are others in this position. I will say was surprised the club didn't get in touch with last years season ticket holders to find out why they didn't renew, maybe something we should be doing and figure out ways to get these fans back? And if they had, what would have enticed you back BMATB? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Drago Posted 29 August 2015 Report Share Posted 29 August 2015 I agree regarding the ticket prices, home form and cup exit. However we spent so long in the 1st/Championship and everyone craved for top flight football. The euphoria of the Dumbarton game seemed to exorcise those demons and last season was a more than steady return to the top flight. What were people expecting? Amazing football, played by superb players? Silky passing football and big name signings? Had nobody seen SPFL football before? I mean teams like Motherwell, ICT and StJ have been the best the league could offer outside Sellick and none of them played even half decent stuff. We finished top six last season and are currently sitting top half of the league again and all anyone can do (myself included, truth be told) is complain. Nae pleasing us, is there? Think folk just want to see some entertaining football and some home wins. Last years good placing was built on strong away results, the home form wasn't great and therefore our "floating support" won't always want to attend. For me a change of style would be the first thing. Get rid of this tippy tappying narrow nonsense and get us going a bit more direct in the wide areas. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barkblue Posted 29 August 2015 Report Share Posted 29 August 2015 Think folk just want to see some entertaining football and some home wins. Last years good placing was built on strong away results, the home form wasn't great and therefore our "floating support" won't always want to attend. For me a change of style would be the first thing. Get rid of this tippy tappying narrow nonsense and get us going a bit more direct in the wide areas. People were RAVING about the tippy happy stuff after Killie. If we'd have put away our chances this season, people would still be saying the style of football was great. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rorros Posted 29 August 2015 Report Share Posted 29 August 2015 I didn't say we over achieved Rorros, was just stating that's where we finished. My point is, I can't quite work out what folk really expect. Today wasn't great and I'm far from pretending it was. However we've just had our highest finish in how many years and all we can do is say, well it isn't entertaining enough. The style of football is all wrong (I'm as guilty as anyone for that), or the squad is all wrong. Teams aren't going to turn up at Dens and say, you guys play nice fitba, we'll stand and watch. I'm at a stage where I think the folk like you and me (and most of this board, to be fair), who will go rain or shine, S***e or braw, will go and those who don't will maybe turn up if it's Hearts, the scum or Sellick - and if it's a nice day, the price is right and they dinnae have to queue, or the food is good. And only then if we win six nil, score two from free kicks and two from thirty yards. We should be aiming for an average of 5750-6000 home fans over the season but cant see that happening this season to be honest. I think dfc really have to be a bit more imaginative re pricing. I don't have the answers but I cant even remember dfc surveying the fans to see what would and wouldn't work. Dfc have a very loyal fan base but its difficult to stop a slide in crowds once they start and you just have to look at st m, Motherwell, partick and killie who all had attendance figures much closer to us in years gone by to see how far crowds can fall. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Posted 29 August 2015 Report Share Posted 29 August 2015 ICT at home is the worst game of the season as far as I'm concerned so I'm not surprised a lot of folk didn't fancy it. No away fans so no atmosphere. We are playing against are a horrible, dirty team who will disrupt our ball players and kill the game as a spectacle. There's also the fact that we never beat them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Drago Posted 29 August 2015 Report Share Posted 29 August 2015 People were RAVING about the tippy happy stuff after Killie. If we'd have put away our chances this season, people would still be saying the style of football was great. People were raving about it because we played with a level of incisiveness (if that's even a word) that we haven't seen since. V Killie the front three interchanged so well that their movement pulled Killie apart. Today we just played in front of a well organised team. The way to hurt ICT was down the flanks but we didn't exploit that enough 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reverend Lovejoy Posted 29 August 2015 Report Share Posted 29 August 2015 People were RAVING about the tippy happy stuff after Killie. If we'd have put away our chances this season, people would still be saying the style of football was great. Exactly. A few players back from injury and one or two reinforcements and we'll be firing again. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barkblue Posted 29 August 2015 Report Share Posted 29 August 2015 We should be aiming for an average of 5750-6000 home fans over the season but cant see that happening this season to be honest. I think dfc really have to be a bit more imaginative re pricing. I don't have the answers but I cant even remember dfc surveying the fans to see what would and wouldn't work. Dfc have a very loyal fan base but its difficult to stop a slide in crowds once they start and you just have to look at st m, Motherwell, partick and killie who all had attendance figures much closer to us in years gone by to see how far crowds can fall. As I said Rorros, I agree with you on pricing and think the club have got it seriously wrong on the prices for kids and OAP's. I just don't think unless we were sitting in the top 3 and banging in three or four goals every week that we'll hit 6000 home support every game. We like to think (and those that got to the dump, but not home games will tell you it's true) that more folk would turn if things were like this, or that, but they wouldn't. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rorros Posted 29 August 2015 Report Share Posted 29 August 2015 Plus as they say in racing killies form has been rubber stamped with continuing inept performances. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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