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Kevin Holt V Gary Irvine


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I just think its a matter of experience tbh.. Irvine is a seasoned veteran in comparison to Holt at this level.

I agreed with PH's decision to give the White Cafu the nod before Holt against Icey tea. Holt had been targeted and run ragged by St Johnstone, Aberdeen and to a lesser extent Dunfermline in the LC debacle.

I was surprised to see Irvine retain his place in the starting eleven on Saturday against Thistle because I thought he was poor against Caley at Dens but on reflection I don't think he performed too badly at the weekend. 

I would now be surprised if Holt was played ahead of Irvine at Septic Park on Sunday.. I hope PH is of the mind that we don't need our full backs pushed right up and looking for every opportunity to assist with attacks. What I do think we need is a steady and assured performance right across the back with the ability to move the ball quickly from front to back and not leaving ourselves exposed down the flanks.

I like Holt but we need to improve our defence at the minute and I think Ph sees Irvine as a more reliable defender at this point.

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I quite like Holt from what I've seen of him so far. With the formation Hartley plays we need full backs who can attack. I'm not so convinced about McGinn as an attacking full back however and the debate for me is whether Irvine should start ahead of him. I'd be tempted to give the nod to Irvine. 

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I prefer to have a left footed player at left back for balance, but that's just me. I think PH has to ease Holt in, he hasn't played at this level before, so it made sense to take him out of the 11 after a couple of bad games and we know Irvine is more than capable of playing there. I'm glad we have the depth of squad to do that.

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Pretty much agree with everything here. Holt will be our left back for the future but he's just stepped up and has had a tough run with dealing with specific players so it makes sense to use someone like Irvine to take the pressure off him while he settles. Full backs have a pretty difficult job as they have to be strong defensively and going forward so they are under a lot more pressure when against good opposition.

Holt has shown that he has it in him to be brilliant going forward (he's already popped up with an assist in the opening game of the season) and he's been a very good attacking threat for Queen of the South and provided quite a strong attacking threat. Queen's fans were raving about how he'd only be here a year or two and then move on for big money. He's signed up until 2018 and is only 22 so he's got plenty of time to work himself up to this level.

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I'd like to see Holt at left mid, in front of Irvine at left back. He can attack as well as defend when needed. Probably have GMS at right wing and they both could take care of him. Think we could be in trouble with Low there. His height would also be beneficial when defending. At Killie he showed he can get in good positions and fire balls into the box.

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I prefer to have a left footed player at left back for balance, but that's just me. I think PH has to ease Holt in, he hasn't played at this level before, so it made sense to take him out of the 11 after a couple of bad games and we know Irvine is more than capable of playing there. I'm glad we have the depth of squad to do that.

That's how I see it too.

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We were 25 minutes from a draw at Pittodrie when Holt failed to stop a cross coming in for their crucial opener. A few days later we were heading for extra-time until Holt inexplicably decided not to bring down their player to prevent a breakaway leading to Dunfermline's winner.

He's a young lad with a great future ahead of him but Hartley had to give him a rest and bring in Irvine.

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We were 25 minutes from a draw at Pittodrie when Holt failed to stop a cross coming in for their crucial opener. A few days later we were heading for extra-time until Holt inexplicably decided not to bring down their player to prevent a breakaway leading to Dunfermline's winner.

He's a young lad with a great future ahead of him but Hartley had to give him a rest and bring in Irvine.

Plus the St J mauling.

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