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Last season we had 4000 season ticket holders and somewhere between 5000 and 6000 home fans at pretty much every home league game except the derbies where it rises to over 7000 home fans.

We finish top 6 for the first time in 12 years and beat United for the first time in 10 years. The perfect recipe to increase season ticket sales towards the 4500 mark and the home support to 5500 to 6500 mark.

What did we do though? Massively increase season ticket prices across the board therefore decreasing season ticket holder numbers and general home attendances.

Take out the first home game at Dens this season as they always pull in a bigger attendance and there's been between 4500 and 5200 Dundee fans at every home league game so far, a drop of somewhere between 500 and 1000 Dundee fans attending compared to last season.

If we hang about in the bottom 6, it will fall further.

I know it was debated to death over the summer on here but there can now surely be no doubt that the ridiculous massive price increases on season tickets has had a significant impact on our home attendances.

A missed opportunity when we had a great platform to increase the home support on the back of last season.

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Better team costs more money. Simple as that really.

If that's the approach the board are using, then surely they will be asking questions of Hartley soon because I am really struggling to see where this seasons team is better than last years.

You don't need to be that clued up on the football side of things to notice that a greater budget with no improvement in results and performances doesn't add up.

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I agree PRD, the increase was a big mistake by the board. An increase wouldn't have been so bad, but the size of the increase is clearly affecting the numbers that are coming through the gat.

I would argue that's as much down to the lack of entertainment/results at home as it is to the price increase.

Over the last two seasons the home fare hasn't exactly been great

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Ivan Drago, on 25 Oct 2015 - 12:06 PM, said:

I would argue that's as much down to the lack of entertainment/results at home as it is to the price increase.

Over the last two seasons the home fare hasn't exactly been great

I'd argue that it's been much better than the stuff we played under Jocky, Chisholm, Barry (Deefiant season aside) and Bomber.

If what you're saying is the case - then some have very short memories Ivan. I can't comment on the brutality of yesterday as unfortunately (Or perhaps fortunately judging by the reviews of the game) but in general, the football on offer has been a marked improvement over the past 6 or 7 year and this is reflected in our league position - going from a team that couldn't get promoted to a team that has stabilised itself in the top flight.

The board scored a massive OG with the massive increase in ST prices.

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Better team costs more money. Simple as that really.

DD ....... I dinnae basically  disagree with what you are saying there.

But does it no never reach a stage where it does become too much ?

Especially if, as has been pointed oot, improvement is not so obvious.

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Think its more down to the football on offer and our poor results at home since we have came up.

Also being a mid table side is not exactly the most exciting thing in the world and will struggle to attract the casual fan to come up and watch us.

Do think the board have made a massive mistake in having Hearts & Aberdeen as Cat A. Wouldnt be surprised if we see really poor crowds when they both visit Dens, especially with the Sheep game being on the telly.

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£20 to £25 quid for a team that plays for 15 to 45 minutes is a bit of a cheek.

I wouldn't mind if they got stuck in but they wander about clueless for most of the time.

A lot of guys around me yesterday were showing the first signs of disillusionment with the manager and lack of will to win in the team.

Bad winter days will see our crowds dwindle unless we see a big improvement, all we ask for is everybody to give 100%.

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August 2014 - Dundee v Partick, attendance 6453

February 2015 - Dundee v Partick, attendance 5560

November 2015 - Dundee v Partick, attendance 5067 (4708 Dundee fans)

Same trend as every other home game this season so far except the Hearts game as that was the home opener (which always pulls in a large home crowd) and they weren't in the same league as us last season. Home crowds down significantly on like for like fixtures from last season as widely predicted on here over the summer with the massive increase in Season Ticket prices for all ages.

We're down to 4500 to 4700 home fans for every home game since the second home game of the season.

Last season we were around 5000 to 6000 home fans every league game except the derbies therefore we are sitting at a missing 500 to 1300 home fans from last season every game this season so far bar the opener.

The arguement was put forward all summer that we needed these increases to compete and see a better product on the park.

Well i'm saying that it'ss quite clear that we are no better on the park so far and have lost an average of almost a thousand home fans a game in the process.

Real own goal from the board.

Recent results and performances clearly not helping matters before anyone points out but season ticket holders make up the majority of home crowds everywhere these days and we are quite clearly significantly down.

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Agree with Ivan it's not a money issue imo.the die hards will always get a season ticket and the pay at the gate(or whatever they should be called now) will be there in higher numbers when they are going to see some exciting football. unfortunately there is none of that on show

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