Strange Situation

[CW 90+3 02/05/16]

Seems everyone is almost dead cert that we are 100 percent safe from the play off spot and is concentrating on the opportunity to relegate United at Dens.

We all want Killie to win on Saturday but if we were to lose to Partick and Killie win, it puts them only 6 points behind us with 12 points still to play for meaning we still aren't safe from a play off spot with 4 games to go.

Obviously the best scenario this weekend is us winning, Killie winning and United losing but if we are getting beat by Partick on Saturday, is a Killie win really the best thing for us?

I know we have already debated the chances of us ending up in the play off spot and most think there is no chance or next to none but it just worries me that we could be going in to the derby only 6 clear of it with 12 still to play for.

Hopefully we win on Saturday and the worrying stops and we can fully enjoy derby day.

Is it just me or anyone else feeling like this? Seen it all before with DFC. No chickens counted until it's mathematical for me.

Edited 21 April 2016 by Perth Road Dee

[Dariusz Dee]

I'm definitely worried. If anyone is going to completely balls this situation up, it's DFC.

DFC has broken my heart too many times for me to give my full faith.

[greygoose]

Its a pity we lost to Hamilton. I feel a wee bit nervous to be honest. As you say its not done and dusted.

[harry94]

You have to remember that if Kilmarnock win their games, they are taking points at the expense of other teams and other sides have got to play each other. Taking a point off someone else is also the equivalent to denying them 2 points. I fired up an excel spreadsheet very quickly last week and found that if we win just one point, it's almost impossible for all 4 teams to overtake us on points.

Obviously, football does provide these improbable scenarios but that combined with our ability to generally always pick up points over the last couple of seasons has me feeling comfortable this time round. I will get a bit nervous if we lose our first two games and see things go against us but a point on Saturday will push those fears aside.

I'll maybe get that spreadsheet up tomorrow evening when I've got my honours project submitted. Not sure where I saved it.

[Cobra]

I wasn't worried in December when our form was really poor and we were only a couple of points above the play-offs because I knew we had too much quality in the squad to end up in trouble, so I'm certainly not worried now.

[CW 90+3 02/05/16]

You have to remember that if Kilmarnock win their games, they are taking points at the expense of other teams and other sides have got to play each other. Taking a point off someone else is also the equivalent to denying them 2 points. I fired up an excel spreadsheet very quickly last week and found that if we win just one point, it's almost impossible for all 4 teams to overtake us on points.

Obviously, football does provide these improbable scenarios but that combined with our ability to generally always pick up points over the last couple of seasons has me feeling comfortable this time round. I will get a bit nervous if we lose our first two games and see things go against us but a point on Saturday will push those fears aside.

I'll maybe get that spreadsheet up tomorrow evening when I've got my honours project submitted. Not sure where I saved it.

I understand that Harry and yes, it's a massive long shot for all 4 teams to over take us at this point in time but all I know is 6 clear with 4 to go (which could easily happen this weekend) would mean it's definitely not over and could go down to the last day with a few teams in contention for the play off spot.

The picture will become clearer after this weekend anyway.

On the other side of it a derby win to secure our top flight status would make it double sweet if we still aren't safe after this weekend.

[Mr Gandosaur]

Willing to bet anyone £50 to their nominated charity we will be safe before we play Inverness on the final day. 

[CW 90+3 02/05/16]

I wasn't worried in December when our form was really poor and we were only a couple of points above the play-offs because I knew we had too much quality in the squad to end up in trouble, so I'm certainly not worried now.

There was over 57 points to play for in December.

There are 15 to play for just now.

I am saying we could (but hopefully not) be only 6 points clear with 12 points still to play for after this weekend.

I was asking, if we were to get beat by Partick at the weekend, do we still want Killie to win which makes the chance of relegating United at Dens higher but makes the chance, no matter how slim it is, of us ending up in the play off spot on the final day higher also.

[JoeCovenant]

I'm not worried.

I fully believe we will be safe and end up 7th/8th.

That said, I am very aware of the old adage "He who forgets the past is doomed to repeat it..."

[JoeCovenant]

There was over 57 points to play for in December.

There are 15 to play for just now.

I am saying we could (but hopefully not) be only 6 points clear with 12 points still to play for after this weekend.

I was asking, if we were to get beat by Partick at the weekend, do we still want Killie to win which makes the chance of relegating United at Dens higher but makes the chance, no matter how slim it is, of us ending up in the play off spot on the final day higher also.

Personally, I think it would be a fool who would rather us being hauled closer to the play off space, with the result being us relegating the DABS.

Our own results should always take precedent.

We might not rather that happening, but it would certainly take the edge off of it and be generally accepted if we DID relegate them, regardless of where we ended (as long as it wasn't 11th!)

[Cobra]

There was over 57 points to play for in December.

There are 15 to play for just now.

I am saying we could (but hopefully not) be only 6 points clear with 12 points still to play for after this weekend.

I was asking, if we were to get beat by Partick at the weekend, do we still want Killie to win which makes the chance of relegating United at Dens higher but makes the chance, no matter how slim it is, of us ending up in the play off spot on the final day higher also.

For me, yes we want Killie to win so we can relegate United but what we wish for will have no bearing on results so there's no point losing sleep over it.

I actually think all this worrying will come to an end this weekend as Inverness need to get a result at home to Killie and I'm sure they will. Also, I suspect United will take three points against Hamilton to kill off our chances of relegating them at Dens.

[Sebastiano Nela]

Only DFC could cock this up.

Hopefully we get a win against Thistle to settle nerves.