DOC OUT

[Budgem]

4 minutes ago, DFC1974 said:

Is it 9 under American ownership? Even including John Brown (who I think was in place at the time of Americans arrival) I make it only 7 and even then, McGhee was only an interim appointment.

Brown

Hartley

McCann

McIntyre

McPake

McGhee

Doc

Bowyer?

[QuesoGrande]

I can handle getting beat. It’s the only guarantee in sport, at some point you will lose. It’s the manner of the defeats and the relentless kicks in the nuts that come with being a Dundee fan that really grind you down.  Back to back 6-0 pumpings, 3 from 3 defeats to Ross fckn County, worst GA in the country and on track for a top flight record, the pitch fiasco last year, a consistently shyte run of managers, all against a backdrop of playing in the second tier just as much as the top tier for the last 30 years. 
I would just like us to be boring for a few years. 7-9th place finishes in the top tier and maybe the odd cup semi. I don’t think that’s too much to ask!

[rossco]

1 hour ago, Reverend Lovejoy said:

Under American ownership we're potentially looking at a NINTH manager in 12yrs if we punt Docherty. Regardless of the past and some of the charlatans who've darkened our doors that's a frightening number. 

In the past, when financial mismanagement has hit, we've had well meaning club backers who've reluctantly took the hit when offered a fraction of what they were due, when we entered admin under the Marr's I think they wrote off the best part of £13m (allegedly). The current owners don't have emotional ties so will they be as willing to help us out if the stadium doesn't come to fruition?. The money we lose year on year is repayable to them with interest so all these managers and player pay-offs aren't without payback at some stage. It's how we repay them that's the million dollar question if we miss our on Campy. What is their plan B if there even is one?. 

And in the 12 years before that we had 8 managers.

Bonetti

Duffy

Kernaghan

Rae

Scott

Chisholm

Smith

Brown

 

[DFC1974]

45 minutes ago, Budgem said:

Bowyer?

Ffs, of course!

[Reverend Lovejoy]

5 hours ago, DFC1974 said:

Is it 9 under American ownership? Even including John Brown (who I think was in place at the time of Americans arrival) I make it only 7 and even then, McGhee was only an interim appointment.

Brown

Hartley

McCann

McIntyre

McPake

McGhee

Doc

It's definitely 8 but we'll be looking for a 9th if Docherty leaves which is what I posted. You've missed the last one Gary Bowyer. McGhee was an interim appointment but he'd have been made permanent if he'd kept us up imo. 

[eyeothedug]

5 hours ago, QuesoGrande said:

Yes, we speak about the board and the directors but we also know that they exist in name only. We have people in named positions but it’s lip service. There are no board meetings or AGM. And that’s not speculation or stirring rumours, it’s fact. The club runs itself on a day to day basis and JN (and Strachan when needed) decides on the big items - new pitch, new manager, training ground. We can speculate why that is but it’s a one man show. By and large we have had rookie managers that maybe don’t feel they can ask questions, with the exception of Bowyer who it seems upset the cart. I am speculating here but I think we can thank Bowyer for Gardyne, new sports science staff and the other back room improvements that have appeared in the last couple of years. Maybe I’m doing a disservice to JN and that was all planned anyway but the word on the pavey was Bowyer called him out. 

Am sure Bowyer did call him out. I think Nelms is useless. Has not a clue how to run a football club. Basically he is our director of football and all the other directorial roles too. I don't think Strachan has enough influence. 

I very much doubt he would have planned Gardyne. 

[eyeothedug]

If we are beaten heavily by United next week and it's not unlikely, I think Doc should go. 

[TAYZURRI]

I'm not one to call for the manager's head; I would give them more time to turn things around. I was hoping this slump in form was just a bad patch. However, after hearing various stories, whether they are true or not, I believe the manager needs to go now.

[Budgem]

"However, after hearing various stories, whether they are true or not, I believe the manager needs to go now."

Oh! Do tell. 

[TAYZURRI]

2 minutes ago, Budgem said:

"However, after hearing various stories, whether they are true or not, I believe the manager needs to go now."

Oh! Do tell. 

I'm not one for storytelling

[Budgem]

Just now, TAYZURRI said:

I'm not one for storytelling

Oh, you tease! 

[DFC1974]

1 hour ago, Reverend Lovejoy said:

It's definitely 8 but we'll be looking for a 9th if Docherty leaves which is what I posted. You've missed the last one Gary Bowyer. McGhee was interim appointment but he'd have been made permanent if he'd kept us up imo. 

Fair point about McGhee, I guess he probably would have been kept on.