Best To Worst Managers This Century

[Cobra]

As suggested by DD, can you rate our managers this century (Bonetti, Duffy, Kernaghan, Rae, Scott, Chisholm, Smith, Brown, Hartley) from best to worst? Might be easier to consider only Jocky and JD's last stints at the club.

I'll start with...

1. Hartley
2. Smith
3. Duffy
4. Scott
5. Brown
6. Rae
7. Bonetti
8. Kernaghan
9. Chisholm

 

Edited 4 June 2016 by TheDarkBlues
Added a poll for overall manager :) I hope you don't mind ;)

[Boba Fett]

1. Hartley

2. Smithy

3. Duffy

4. Rae

5. Jocky

6. Bonetti

7. Bomber

8. Chisholm

9. Kernaghan  

Chisholm & Kernaghan are neck and neck for me tbh with PH way out in front.

Mon the Dee..

[chomp my root]

9 hours ago, Cobra said:

As suggested by DD, can you rate our managers this century (Bonetti, Duffy, Kernaghan, Rae, Scott, Chisholm, Smith, Brown, Hartley) from best to worst? Might be easier to consider only Jocky and JD's last stints at the club.

I'll start with...

1. Hartley
2. Smith
3. Duffy
4. Scott
5. Brown
6. Rae
7. Bonetti
8. Kernaghan
9. Chisholm

 

1) Hartley

2) Duffy (by a baw hair over Sir Baz)

3) Smith

4) Scott

5) Rae

6) Brown (not 6th on popularity for me but the stats suggest he was better than I remember)

7) McCormack (I've not counted the caretaker managers)

8) Bonetti - he did bring us some fantastic players and some fantastic moments and could arguably be further up the list for the sheer entertainment but a poor manager and soured by the complete implosion of the club which admittedly wasn't really down to him

9/10) I can't separate Chisholm and Kernaghan although if you put a gun to my head I'd probably put Chisholm slightly above Kernaghan, I've got a lot of bad memories of that time, not that I made all the games. I think it was about that time that Mrs Root started coming more regularly () to the football. 

 

Edited because I've just noticed it was this century and I included Cowboy. I thought it was 10 most recent.  I can be a very special boy at times.

Edited 4 June 2016 by chomp my root

[barkblue]

1. Hartley (There actually seems to be a plan! Not sure I can say that for any of the others on this list...)

2. Smith (I just can't place what any of the others did above the Deefiant season)

3. Rae (I think he put together a good squad with a non-existent budget and should have been given longer. We also played half decent stuff under him)

4. Duffy (Based purely on his second stint, Duffy gave is some good times, but more lows and when he got it wrong, he got it very wrong. His sacking was still a mistake though)

5. Brown (The wrong man at the wrong time with the wrong people around him. Still he restored some pride on the park in the top flight and assembled the squad that got us promoted)

6. Jocky (Again, based purely on his final stint. Failed to do the job he was brought in to do and his tactics ensured awful football)

7. Bonetti (Brought in some amazing players and some total garbage. Still, to say we under achieved and that he was tactically and media persona naive is a massive understatement) 

8. Chisolm (It pains me not to put him last - awful. Awful. AWFUL)

9. Kernaghan (We've been through some tough times, but his tenure is my lowest in all my years going to Dens and elsewhere following the club. Just clueless) 

[CW 90+3 02/05/16]

1 - Duffy (Got us to a Scottish Cup final, a League Cup semi final, European football, a top 6 finish, 9 derbies undefeated and a mid table finish post a massive admin. Yes he had a nightmare April/May 2005 but what went before more than cancels that out. Our most underrated manager reading forums over the years as a lot of people can't see past April/May 2005)

2- Hartley (Promotion, a top 6 finish, derby wins, top flight stability and some great signings)

3 - Smith (Produced the most incredible non top flight season in our history in the Deefiant season. Struggled club 12 season but circumstances weren't good)

4 - Bonetti (Signed the most incredible players, produced some of the most incredible football and entertainment we have seen in decades. Wins at Ibrox, Parkhead, Pittodrie and all over the country. Didn't achieve anything in 2 roller coaster seasons no but have never understood the massive negativity he gets on this forum every time this subject comes up. Was an incredible unforgettable 2 seasons supporting us going to every game.)

5 - Bomber (Gave us a fighting chance in the club 12 season taking it almost to the second last game had Pawlett not cheated us. Put 40 points on board in the promotion winning season. Another one I have never understood the negativity towards.)

6 - Rae (Had us in a promotion battle with limited resources and restored some hope after the disastrous Kernaghan era. Deserved to go the following season though)

7 - Jocky (Sorry Jocky. Legend for the 98 to 2000 spell. The 2008 to 2010 won was a massive disappointment though bar a few decent moments)

8 - Chisholm (No reason not to be 9th other than Kernaghan was the worst Dundee FC manager in my time)

9 - Kernaghan (Worst Dundee FC manager in my time)

 

 

[HK Blues]

1-Duffy

2-Hartley

3-Smith

4-Bonetti

5-Scott

6-Brown

7-Rae

8-Chisholm 

9-Kernaghan

Put Duffy first as he achieved a few things in his time with us - unfortunately that relegation sours much of his achievements. I don't doubt PH will do at least as much and jump to top sometime soon.

 

[DFC1974]

1. Hartley (not much in it with Duffy other than my confidence.)

2. Duffy (produced the goods with a mix of inherited players from Bonetti and his own. Steered the club through admin one; however, once his own team was assembled relegation was always a threat. Would have liked to have been able to judge Duffy on his own team but without the restriction post admin gave him..oh and Burchill instead of Novo...) 

3. Bonetti (thanks for the most talented Dees and entertaining football in my lifetime)

4. Smith (Deefiant)

5. Brown (To me he was a hero as a player in the 80s and it's sad he was never really accepted back at Dens and spoke out the side of his mouth. I think he toughened us up as a squad and felt if he had been appointed earlier we would have had a better chance of club 12 survival. Also if he stayed a bit longer he would have seen us over the line for promotion.)

6. Scott (Because he is Jocky Scott, brought in Griffiths and Harkins and flew around Dundee with a jet-pack) 

7. Rae (never felt we were promotable under Rae)

8. Chisholm (unbelievable that he's not bottom of list)

9. Kernaghan (just unbelievable) 

Edited 4 June 2016 by DFC1974

[Ivan Drago]

1) Duffy - showed what could be achieved with that squad

2) Smithy - for the deefiant season alone. The club 12 season he wasn't supported by an inexperienced board regime and that showed IMO. 

3) joint Bomber - built the championship winning squad, restored pride in club 12 season. Was destined never to succeed because of split in the support  

3) joint Hartley - has underperformed this season with good backing but the club is progressing. Nearly bottled promotion though 

 5) Jocky - well backed but fell short. Still think something must have happened in the dressing room such was the apparent slump in team spirit. 

6) Rae - cutting his teeth and was genuinely unlucky with that Hamilton side however the squad he rebuilt was very poor. Did bring in Mac etc which were excellent signings. The way he dealt with the lyle situation also showed a real nievity IMO. 

7) Kerno - only this high because departs being a total and utter disaster his hands were completely tied by the club being a total shambles. 

8) Chis - as mentioned in Jocky section I do believe something had happened that ripped the heart out of that squad. Chronically under performed though despite bringing in quality such as Riley, Lockwood etc. 

9) Bonnetti - the worst by a Paul Dixon first touch for me. Backed to the hilt, a contact book most could dream of and delivered a scrapped top six and a shambles of a second season. Flattered to decieve to the max. Complete disorganised mess of a club at the time. Will never manage again. 

For what it's worth Jocky in the late 90's was head and shoulders above all in this list imo

[Cobra]

I've compiled the results from the responses so far (8 points for being rated best, 7 points for being rated second best, etc) and here's the ranking...

1. Hartley 73
2. Duffy 55
3. Smith 51
4= Jocky 30
4= Bomber 30
6. Rae 28
7. Bonetti 25
8. Chisholm 7
9. Kerno 3