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Well another night has passed that I have had no sleep at all, not a single minute! This has been happening at least 3 nights a week for the past 6 months and has happened the last 2. I'll be at my work in 2 hours like a bloody zombie!

Nothing has happened in this period that would cause stress or worry and there has been no major changes. If anything the household finances have improved due to her new job and my promotion although not a great deal! My promotion has actually allowed me to slightly reduce my workload and I am home at half 5 every night to bath the kids and have tea with the wife.

No relationship issues. In fact again the opposite. At the risk of sounding cheesy my wife is my best friend and we have a healthy sex life!

Really is getting to the stage that I am barely able to function for large periods of time yet the Dr always puts it down to some form of stress etc and just wants to prescribe anti depressants. Everyone close to me feels this is lazy advice as they agree I am far from depressed! Just can't bloody sleep!

Does anyone have similar issues? Have you managed to deal with similar? Any hints, tips or advice you think would benefit?

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Andee ...... This looks tae me, like an ideal question for the new Topic Heading .....  (which is yet to appear) .............  "Ask the Janny"    

Many posters may not be aware that, "Janny 62" is an expert in anything pertaining to ........well just about anything .......  I think !!

If there is uncertainy here, you , and other posters, may like to read his response on my own post, concerning my fall off the roof shed.

To say it was rather helpful, would most definitely be undermining his expertise in all matters pertaining to (as stated bove).....ANYTHING.....T

The man is a genius :)  However, just in case he decides not to respond .......

From one insomniac to another, I am not sure there is anything to do, but simply accept it.  My own doctor would never give me pills, on the basis I should be trying to get to the roots of my supposed worries/stress ...... (I am not a worrier)  

I have tried what I think are the usual remedies ........Hot relaxing milk drink (made me pee all night)........Going for a long walk (came back exhausted, but still couldnae sleep) ...... Reading (or NOT reading) a good book in bed..... (didnae work)      Wide open windows (even in the winter) thinking plenty fresh air wis the answer. Never had the chance tae see if that could work, as my wiffe complained awe night aboot being frozen !! So at least in my case Andee .....nae real answer.

Now I am retired, it is no quite the same issue it was. But it is still a real pain. There may be others oot there who have the answers. But for me, the Janny is the Man.

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Andee.

I usually get to sleep no bother but it could be because I am not in bed before 1am but I do not get up the next morning until about 10am. I sometimes that to get up for a pee but I usually have no problems getting back to sleep. One of the joys of being retired where every day is like being on holiday.

When I retired on 31st December 2003 when came to Islay for a six week holiday. Every afternoon at about 4pm I fell asleep in chair and slept for about two hours, something which had never happened before even on holiday. I asked my Islay friends at golf why this was happening and they replied it was due to the soft Islay air which I was not used to.

Now 12 years later things are back to normal as I have become acclimatised to the Islay air but sometimes I wake up during the night and cannot get back to sleep for a couple of hours because my mind is in overdrive about everyday events.

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I will try and help you Andee as I have had the problem before.

What I did was go to bed at the same time every night, even at weekends and got up at the same time. I made sure my bedroom wasn't too hot and always had the window open a little bit.

I didn't drink alcohol, tea or coffee after 6pm.

For the first couple of days I took a sleepeaze tablet that you get in Boots. They are not the herbal ones. I also did not take my tablet or phone to bed and instead read a book until I felt sleepy and then I put the light out. After a week or so I was sleeping a lot better.

Good luck :)

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If I was you Andee, I'd be changing my Doctor , I think the problem you have now could lead to more serious health issues .

Lapses in concentration could lead to accidents too.

Sorry to sound a bit doom and gloom , but it is a worry.

Go and get an appointment to a specialist.

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Well another night has passed that I have had no sleep at all, not a single minute! This has been happening at least 3 nights a week for the past 6 months and has happened the last 2. I'll be at my work in 2 hours like a bloody zombie!

Nothing has happened in this period that would cause stress or worry and there has been no major changes. If anything the household finances have improved due to her new job and my promotion although not a great deal! My promotion has actually allowed me to slightly reduce my workload and I am home at half 5 every night to bath the kids and have tea with the wife.

No relationship issues. In fact again the opposite. At the risk of sounding cheesy my wife is my best friend and we have a healthy sex life!

Really is getting to the stage that I am barely able to function for large periods of time yet the Dr always puts it down to some form of stress etc and just wants to prescribe anti depressants. Everyone close to me feels this is lazy advice as they agree I am far from depressed! Just can't bloody sleep!

Does anyone have similar issues? Have you managed to deal with similar? Any hints, tips or advice you think would benefit?

Hey Andee...

First things first... a healthy sex life is a wonderful thing, huh?

I must admit, I find that helps ME get to sleep quite easily!

Sleep patterns have their cycle, and the least little thing can disrupt them.

It actually gets to a point where worrying about not getting to sleep... will mean you wont get to sleep... (which MAY be where you are right now)

As a twenty-something I went through a horrendous bout of insomnia that lasted for a few years.

If you don't want to go down the route of pills...

I used so many different tactics to try to get to sleep! (One of which - you can have for nothing... :)  ) I used to think of a double album, somethng like The Wall, or War of the Worlds and start at the begining and go through it (in my head, not aloud) I'd usually only get to the middle of side two... (That said, I've seen myself getting through three entire albums, and still not sleeping!)

One final thing... (Not that I am saying you are!)

If the Dr thinks you are under stress... just ask him why he thinks that, and what would his advice be? Sleep deprivation can lead to serious health problems!

Also... depression can take MANY forms... (Not saying you are, but it comes in many forms and can actually be a VERY subtle beast .

Lastly... (seriously)... if this is getting you down (which it sounds like it is) - that CAN be a symptom of mild reactive-depression.

You MIGHT want to (bear with me) try calling the Samaritans... they are NOT just there for potential suicide cases - their operatives are well trained in just listening where that might be required, and talking sh*t out is always a help.

Cheers!

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Ask Doc to check your hormone levels if you not stressed etc.

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Ask Doc to check your hormone levels if you not stressed etc.

Good shout.

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Not making light of your insomnia bud but watch any programme featuring Professor Brian Cox..

Wonders of the Solar System usually does it for me.

Attempted to watch it so many times but never got past 20mins into episode one!

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 At the risk of sounding cheesy my wife is my best friend and we have a healthy sex life!

Possibly the most personal revelation I have read on a football forum ever :lol2:

Good luck with the sleep.

I have suffered from a chronic lack of sleep for almost 2 decades! Just get used to it to be honest and know that I have a few bad habits before bedtime that cause it like late internet usage for example and brain being too switched on at bed time.

Have you tried a long walk in the evenings so that your body needs to sleep as it could be a case of not enough physical activeness to need sleep but too much mind activeness if you know what I mean?

Edited by Perth Road Dee

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Think you for the positive responses from you all its really appreciated. I have had the opinion of 2 separate doctors all be it from the same practice. I also doubt it is to do with a lack of physical activity as I have a fairly physical job and, sorry Perth road dee, a physical home life!

Got in from work an hour ago, played with my son till his bedtime at 7 and am now in a horrible limbo. I could go to bed now and probably sleep for 2 hours max which is something I refuse to do no matter how tempting! Or try to spend some time with the other half and relax and go to bed the back of 9 but this doesn't always work.

A fair few of you have mentioned you have had sleep issues, do you/did you know when it was going to be a bad night? This is a feeling I get every evening. I seem to know if I'm going to have a particularly stinking night!

Again I appreciate your responses. I know it's a strange thread to put on a football forum but I thought it was the best way to canvas several male opinions at once!

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One thing that won't help you sleep is the new Partick mascot. It's the stuff of nightmares.

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One thing that won't help you sleep is the new Partick mascot. It's the stuff of nightmares.

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Haha ffs cheers mate! Bet the kids can't wait to meet him match days!

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Time do you need to get up each day Andee?

I've been guilty of going to my bed far too late for years now but going to bed at the back of 9 at the latest sounds really early unless you've to be up for 5 or 6am? Just my opinion though. It's probably a much more sensible time to go to bed than I do!

I go to my bed around 1am most nights and get out of bed at the back of 8am. Lucky if I sleep half that amount though due to interupted sleep.

I've vowed for years to go to bed earlier (midnight would be early for me these days) but I just can't seem to break the habit and prefer sleeping in the morning (not ideal when you work full time) than the first half of the night lol.

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I'm up at half 6 each and everyday and on a job run of sleep will be in bed about 10. Usually just after the news headlines. If I go to bed earlier, no matter how tired I am, I'm f**ked and up at 2

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