Downing Tools.

[eyeothedug]

3 minutes ago, WoodStein said:

 

I absolutely agree re the lack of leadership on the pitch. I'd imagine Kenny Miller will be one of the manager's 'voices' on the pitch (& I noticed he was telling players what to do during the Killie game), but we are seriously lacking a 'commanding presence' (more in the Scott Brown mould).

O'Dea certainly had that in his first season, but for reasons unknown has faded a lot....fitness, timing, decision-making have all suffered, to the extent that a lot of fans see him as a bit of a potential liability now. He was also 'implicated by rumour' in a couple of issues (Austria/Portugal), which are not what you think your captain should be involved in. Gowser can be a motivating presence & always battles 100%, but he does have a self-destruct gene & can sometimes slip into having a go at team-mates in a less-than-helpful way. Meekings ought to be a leadership option, but has also followed O'Dea into erratic performances & some awful decisions.

It is, as DeeVinci points out, also a game where confidence is a huge part of performance and of onfield leadership, and maybe all 3 players I've mentioned are just needing their confidence restored....and this is reckoned to be one of JM's abilities.

If JM can't re-motivate our most likely onfield leaders, he may need to sign one in January. Someone like MacKinnon, of Hamilton?    

Yes O'Dea back in and Gowser when fit. Miller too has experience. Build around those three. 5 in midfield. Get rid of the lightweights. Question marks over Elton, Madianga, Nabi, Mendy etc.

[Prince Buster]

1 hour ago, Parcbara said:

Making Cammy captain was a joke.

I said that last season and was vilified for it by a certain faction on here. It's 100% spot on though.

[Den Spark]

Making Meekings captain was another joke.

[eyeothedug]

14 minutes ago, Den Spark said:

Making Meekings captain was another joke.

How can so many mistakes have been made? As I've said before it's not rocket science and most of football management is common sense I feel plus good man management.

[Prince Buster]

2 minutes ago, eyeothedug said:

How can so many mistakes have been made? As I've said before it's not rocket science and most of football management is common sense I feel plus good man management.

McCann was neither a football manager nor a man manager.

[Rocky Boy]

5 hours ago, cg73 said:

O Dea back in. I think so too. Leadership on the park. 

Said the same this morning, to a friend, who asked about the game, O'Dea is not the Quickest, but still quicker than Doyle, who is just a slow cart horse, your correct, no leadership anywhere on the pitch, so going with O'Dea just now, wouldn't be a bad move just now, a Large Rocket required, up our non committal, wage stealers just now.

[CC33]

4 hours ago, Den Spark said:

Making Meekings captain was another joke.

Totally agree , complete bombscare

[Guest]

1 minute ago, CC33 said:

Totally agree , complete bombscare

The captaincy under McCann was a joke, probably the reason why we lack leadership on the pitch. The captains armband got handed around like a toy. 

Should be an honour to be captain of Dundee FC, and tbh, McCann should of known that better than anyone. 

[CC33]

6 minutes ago, GregTeamDee said:

The captaincy under McCann was a joke, probably the reason why we lack leadership on the pitch. The captains armband got handed around like a toy. 

Should be an honour to be captain of Dundee FC, and tbh, McCann should of known that better than anyone. 

Agree mate

[eyeothedug]

33 minutes ago, Rocky Boy said:

Said the same this morning, to a friend, who asked about the game, O'Dea is not the Quickest, but still quicker than Doyle, who is just a slow cart horse, your correct, no leadership anywhere on the pitch, so going with O'Dea just now, wouldn't be a bad move just now, a Large Rocket required, up our non committal, wage stealers just now.

What about no pay if you lose?

[Wattie Rojas]

I know he’s a mistake waiting to happen however kusunga wouldn’t have folded yesterday like Boyle did. Odea is a fighter. Get him in the middle of a 3. 

No idea why meekings, kusunga, Ralph, gowser weren’t available as they’ve been training.

[Dondeh]

7 hours ago, eyeothedug said:

We should have focused on Scottish recruitment.

That'll work.